The New Speaker Will Separate Ukraine and Israel Funding

No one claimed the cuts need to come from one account. You brought up that condition. You claim you want Ukraine war funding, so what are you willing to cut to free up money for Ukraine war funding?

 

We refer to it as January 6th.

 

This is October, not January. So, your smartass post fails...lol

 

We could abdicate the responsibility to keep the sea lanes open.

 

that is like saying the Trump supporters that never went into the Capital are rioters and looters too

 

That's what you all have been saying. Right?

 

No.

 

no one has said that

 

Sounds logical; which means congress will piss and moan about it for weeks. WE need a single purpose amendment/no add-ons/no riders rule.

 

We've had Speakers for 30 years tell us that they understand that, only to sell out the American People when the going got tough. So, we'll see if this Speaker is different or more of the same.

 

Let's see what he does.

 

Ukraine Sure Doesn't Look Like a Democracy

'Many thousands have died needlessly in the unnecessary, unwinnable, and increasingly unaffordable war in Ukraine. The financial assistance and energy subsidies the war has cost Europe and the United States totals more than the annual GDP of Maryland. This at a time when America's own national debt is already 120 percent of our GDP. These costs might have been worth paying if Ukraine were a democracy, but it is not.'

'Democracies do not ban opposition parties. The fact that so many such parties ever existed says something about the level of opposition faced by the Ukrainian nationalist government that came to power after the 2014 revolution. Then in May of 2022, the Ukrainian parliament passed a law formally banning all these parties. President Volodymyr Zelensky signed the law. The list included the Opposition Platform for Life, which had held fully 10 percent of the seats in parliament. Among the 11 banned parties are the Socialist Party of Ukraine, the Progressive Socialist Party of the Ukraine, the Union of Left Forces, and the Communist Party of Ukraine.'

That sounds more like corrupt dictatorship.

'Democracies do not ban elections, but Ukraine has put the democratic process itself on hold since declaring martial law in 2022. This hiatus was supposed to be temporary, but it has been repeatedly extended, most recently in July 2023. As a result of that vote in the Ukrainian parliament, where all opposition parties have been removed, the parliamentary elections scheduled for last month were canceled. Presidential elections were scheduled for March 2024, but under current rules they too will not be held, and Zelensky has stated that "now is not the time for elections."'

Well then, maybe now isn't the time for more US aid, either. No wonder Bribed Joe loves these guys so much.

 

The Corrupt Ukrainians have been able to censor the media to an extent only dreamed of by Bribed Joe.

'In February 2022, the Ukrainian government ordered the nine largest television networks in Ukraine to combine their news operations into a single, state-controlled news program called "Telemarathon." In April 2022 the National Security Council ordered three independent television channels associated with Zelensky's predecessor taken off the air. In December 2022, Zelensky signed a law which gave the National Broadcasting Council statutory authority to regulate all print, broadcast, and digital media.'

And Bribed Joe wants another $100B for them to 'promote democracy.'

'This law gave the Ukrainian government the ability to censor and shut down independent platforms such as Google. It has been harshly criticized by the European Federation of Journalists, which stated that it is incompatible with European Union membership. Ukraine's own National Union of Journalists called the law "the biggest threat to free speech in (Ukraine's) independent history." At this point there are no independent television stations broadcasting news in Ukraine. Print and digital media remain heavily censored.'

Makes Bribed Joe's Mouth Water.

They imposed their very own Dred Scott.

'When Ukraine declared martial law, men aged 18 to 60 became subject to conscription and were therefore forbidden to leave the country. Many have nevertheless sought to avoid the war by fleeing abroad. Those apprehended by the border police are sent to military service. Those who manage to escape remain mostly in Poland and Germany. The Ukrainian government has asked the EU to forcibly return them to Ukraine, thus far without success.'

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-sure-doesnt-look-like-democracy-anymore-opinion-1844799

 

Oh 1000% agree, it is time the international community shows the value of what we've paid for since the end of the Second World War by now being financially independent and viable States.

 

Makes Bribed Joe's Corrupt foray's against Catholics look like child's play.

'In December 2022, Zelensky banned the activities of all religious organizations linked to Russia. This included Ukraine's largest denomination, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which had been closely integrated with the Russian Orthodox Church for more than a thousand years. In May 2022 the church's synod of bishops, in a historic step, formally voted to sever all ties to Moscow and condemned the Russian Orthodox Church's support for the invasion of Ukraine. This was not enough for the Ukrainian government. It increased efforts to ban the Orthodox Church while organizing and promoting a new, state-controlled church.'

Gee, maybe he can make them make him the Pope.

'the government in Kiev has been forcing congregations to switch allegiance and seizing the property of those who resist. The Ukrainian parliament is now preparing to formally outlaw the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.'

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-sure-doesnt-look-like-democracy-anymore-opinion-1844799

 

Trump's solution was simply to present them with the bill for the costs. If they were not agreeable to paying it, then we pick up and leave.



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