Agreed But sadly it is also reflective of a disturbing undercurrent of misogyny in the American culture. The misrepresentation of women who have abortions as "sluts" just going out and using abortion as contraception has embedded itself into the psyche of many so that it prevents the debater from seeing a differing view Somehow they never ask themselves if such a person who is game playing in this way would make a good mother or would the child end up a born drug addict who is subsequently neglected
I don't think any Repub wants contraception banned, period. The arguement comes in at public funding of it. Thats where they part ways. If Santorum indeed said that, then he's an idiot, but it has been my understanding that it is the public funding of such thats the trigger.
I wish more Republicans were aware of their candidates' positions. Yes, Santorum did indeed say that: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ntrol-beliefs/2012/02/16/gIQALczyHR_blog.html And it isn't just public funding of contraception that Republicans oppose. They also oppose a requirement that insurers and employers provide contraception as preventative care. Read the Blunt amendment.
The Personhood Act is the only legitimate civil rights issue going on in present day. It's the only one that involves the life and death of human beings. I hear people talk about same sex marriage and racial issues in the context of civil rights and I just roll my eyes. Talk about having messed up priorities.
About what? That women who have abortions are not sluts? http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/FB-Unintended-Pregnancy-US.html All sluts yes? And that is also because they are sluts yes? You should sterilise the lot of them!! That would stop those unintended pregnancies - AND leave plenty of willing women for Gooooorrr! Roight! Manly men! Now consider this http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_IAW.html Unsafe............ And when we talk about unsafe abortions we are talking ruptured uterus, overwhelming infections etc. What would drive a woman to CHOOSE this option over birth?
Yes that is the belief right up until it is their daughter on trial for a miscarriage because some nasty neighbour states that she saw her get a package from Mexico that must have been those new home abortion pills.........
Well it was murder before 1973 .. Our government tells us what is moral or not. And today what is legal is moral. Our laws however are wishy washy on this as no pregnant woman can be executed if she is pregnant because she is carrying a baby. If you hire and pay a hit man to kill your baby at a clinic its ok but if you try yourself you might be facing charges. Scott Peterson killed his wife Laci. She was carrying their child. And the courts sentenced him to death row not only for her death but the death of their child. And they named Connor in the written ruling ..as her unborn son. They saw him as a human being a person. Funny that there are those here who think the life in the womb is not human not a person yet our government thinks the opposite especially ..that is if the MOTHER WANTS TO KILL IT BY HIRING THAT KILLING DONE.
What is the pro-abortion side doing to stop abortion .besides providing it. LOL What does your side do to help this entire issue? NOTHING, SQUAT You know why .because you do not recognize that anything is wrong. Its ok for you guys to kill the life in the womb cause we all know the life in the womb isn't human, isn't a person .its just there doing nothing. If it was doing nothing it would not have to be killed. You make pot shots at life you laugh at it make fun of it. It means nothing to you. There is nothing potential about what has already been declared by science as a living human being created that came into being at the time of conception. I would bet my life that most of you believe that science verifies that there is no God yet when it comes to life and its beginnings .you deny that science is right. You pick and choose. You want abortion legal because it fits into your worldview killing is always the answer not maybe for wars but at least for the life in the womb. How cold is that?
then you need to pay serious attention to the world. None of the legislation that seeks to ban abortions limits those bans to "public funds."
Seriously? The level of ignorance in that statement is profound. Why do you think the number of abortions has been declining for the last 20+ years? Because of all of that "conservative" legislation? GAWOD!!!! Sex education in schools. Contraception education. Widely available free contraception. That's right. All of the things "conservatives" hate are responsible for reducing the thing they claim to hate most. That they fail to recognize this proves one thing. What "conservatives" hate most is... WOMEN
THIS THE MOST POWERFUL COMMENT I'VE SEEN ON THIS TOPIC SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS SITE....BRAVO!!!!...BRAVO!!!!!
Let's get Biblical for a second....see what the Bible says about abortion. Does anybody know the names of the Fallen Angels that fell with Lucifer? Well, In the book of Enoch, one of the Fallen Angels' name was Kasadya – “he who revealed to the children of the people (the various) flagellations of all evil – (the flagellation) of the souls and the demons, the smashing of the embryo in the womb so that it may be crushed, the flagellation of the soul, snake bites, sunstrokes, the son of the serpent, whose name is Taba’ta. Abortion is evil and of the teachings of the Fallen Angels. How much more proof do you need that abortion is wrong and evil?. How can a christian be pro-choice after reading this?
"The Book of Enoch (also 1 Enoch[1]) is an ancient Jewish religious work, traditionally ascribed to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and Eritrean Orthodox Church, but no other Christian group." More "Christians" defining who is and is not "Christian" by some arbitrary personal measure. Go on back to "conservative-land and find yourself some RINOs.
You're just ignorant to Historical facts. I get it. and Who cares if they use it or not, it belongs in the Bible. and thus it shall be studied and adhered to. Who are they (so called "Jews") to say what is and what is not Biblical? Get your head outta the sand and stop following everything the Ashkenazi and Vatican tells you. The book of Enoch is real, which is why it was taken out of the Bible by the Protestant Christians(along with other valuable books), who are merely heathens posing as Christians.
It was nothing but a personal attack, and you call it POWERFUL? LOL, I suppose if it's all you've got...
I like hearing arguments for this topic. I personally am a conservative, but one that does not agree with my party line on abortion. I personally would not opt for abortion, but at the same time, I don't think I should be able to make that decision for you. I don't support banning abortion. I do support term limits and consideration for the mothers life as priority. Every other argument I hear is based on opinion as to is it right or not. I don't think it is right that kids have kids and can't take care of them. I don't think it's right to have kids living on the streets, addicted to drugs having babies. I could go on and on, but bottom line for me is at some point we have to accept people do things we don't like. We can't make a law for all of them. And for those that blame the partners, I was fortunate after nearly 40 years to father a child. Something I never expected to happen and this was an unexpected pregnancy. Had my wife not been able to have our baby without serious risks, I would have had a decision to make with her. Glad I didn't need to, but it does happen. I would not want you telling me how to handle it. Just my opinion of course.
Oh, well then, I stand "corrected." I guess you think I should take back the remark I made "More "Christians" defining who is and is not "Christian" by some arbitrary personal measure. Go on back to "conservative-land and find yourself some RINOs." Don't think so.
I heard a guy on a talk radio show this morning say that "If a woman can have the right to abort with clear conscience and clear mind, why is she not able to make a clear minded decision prior to getting pregnant in the first place? Makes you wonder if females really do use abortion as a cop out in lieu of mindless behavior.
You don't have to take it back. it's inaccurate drivel regardless. do yourself some good and go read up on the Fallen Angels. lots of textbooks out there for you to drown yourself with knowledge in on the subject.
You're just another of those pansy lib-*****. Don't you know "conservatives" believe that the only place where we need more government is inside a woman's body? Turn your card in at the door. You have been officially tossed out of "conservativeland" for daring to be reasonable.
Because they know that the womb is sacred and Holy and should be protected since females are so easily indoctrinated with garbage from Planed Parenthood they can't make clear decisions anymore. they are bombarded with BS to abort.