the Personhood Act: the future of Humanity depends on it.

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    If you really want to see tightly written legislation relating to read what is written in Queensland's criminal code
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/qld/consol_act/cc189994/

    Last count there were three acts outlawing abortion or provision of abortion

    Guess what? Our abortion rate is roughly the same as the USA
     
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    Oh! Yeah! Duh I is sooo dum I can't make eny desi.....deci.......finking for meself!

    So, who then decides for the woman? If they are so easily led - who decides?

    Oh! And I notice my question about what would drive someone to have an abortion when the outcome was so horrific - has not been answered
     
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    And Queensland Australia where the laws are everything you would wish - our abortion rate is the same as yours
     
  4. 4Horsemen

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    Apparently. only plausible answer with consistency.


    If she was raised properly with some dignity and self-respect for her body, she can decide for herself. that's an easy one.

    answered below
     
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    Apparently. only plausible answer with consistency.


    If she was raised properly with some dignity and self-respect for her body, she can decide for herself. that's an easy one.

    are you paying attention? in cases of rape(the only violent sexual act that can produce a baby against a woman's will), then abortion can be considered.

    but consenual sexual acts, then turning into evil broad from hell with bloodlust to kill it, NO.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We get it. If she enjoyed the sex, then she can't be allowed to abort. OTOH, if she didn't enjoy the sex, it could be allowed. Please don't try to tell us again that it's all about the innocent wittle-bitty baybees.
     
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  7. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right, it is somewhat a personal attack, but mostly it is a broad brush, hate-filled generalization of "you people." Only the stench of it is powerful.
    Oh, and thank you for the rep. I know it was you; you signed with your IQ.


    The "pro-abortion side" is not trying to stop abortion rights, because there will always be a need for it. However, promoting sex ed and access to birth
    control does more to reduce the rate of abortion than your side's fake photos and terrorism ever will.


    See above.

    This has been debated for all time, but it has never been established that a zef is a person. That is only your (religious) opinion, or some would say,
    religious insanity.

    Based on what? Your own sense of religious superiority, I suspect.

    "Science" has never made that declaration. Scientists disagree about the status of the unborn the same as the rest of us.

    You would lose.

    "Science" does not say that a zygote is a human being. I want abortion legal because it is a human right.

    I don't answer for others. Some will choose abortion and some will choose birth, but it is the woman's choice, neither mine nor yours.

    Why must you label those who disagree with you as cold or evil? Are you trying to redeem yourself for something?
     
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    some twisted logic is present in this ^^comment.

    Enjoying sex and getting pregnant on purpose two totally different topics. stay on topic or just leave.
     
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    I think you've been convicted in what was said and took it personal. I don't see the attack on YOU or anybody anywhere in those comments.

    the pro-abortion racket doesn't give a rip about sex ed, are you fkn kidding me right now?!!? all they care about is killing babies and cashing checks, PERIOD.




    It's also NATURE'S OPINION. seek help.



    Oh but Science is just fine when predicting the weather, or global warming, what medicines that are cooked up in labs work best to heal us. but NOooooo, Science is not declared in a the start of life. I get it. You're insane.


    So is owning guns, but you're against that I suspect?


    Then your voice should be mute on the subject, right? why are you protesting FOR abortion then? seems like you've picked the side of the fence you want to ride on already. don't stop answering now.



    Because the act of abortion IS cold, heartless and evil. Did you think it was a warm and fuzzy process complete with roses and chocolate cherries.??? IT'S MURDER.
     
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    Your hatred of women is indeed profound and probably points to an underlying sexual-sadist psychosis.

    Personally I think women are smart enough to make their own decisions and only need to be protected from people like you.
     
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    Of course you would not.

    The abortion rate is lower in the Netherlands and Sweden and other countries where sex education and access to contraception is provided. Why do you ignore this fact? Criminalization doesn't stop or decrease the rate of abortion. Sex education, and access to contraception,such as provided by Planned Parenthood, does.

    And Nature told you that? Seek help.

    If science had declared a zygote to be a person, I would have heard about it.

    Why would you suspect that? Are you generalizing?

    My voice should be mute when your side is taking away abortion rights?

    It is cold, heartless and evil to attempt to enslave women and deprive them of self determination.

    NO IT ISN'T.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So it's innacurate to say the the Book of Enoch is accepted by only the two branches of the Ethiopian Orthodox church?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon



    See? If you cant see the truth that is plain to your eyes how can I trust anything you say?
     
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    YOU don't see a personal attack either. If you did you'd point it out already.


    Abortion is Abortion is Abortion. Rates going up or down still don't make it palatable in a person with morals. Now if you have no morals, that's different.

    So how did you come about? spontaneous combustion? ...LOL...no moron, you came into this world via a natural chemical reaction from a male sperm and a female egg. SEEK TREATMENT!


    Most close-minded people miss things often.


    You voice should be mute because you're not a pregnant female that needs direction. It's their own choice remember? Why influence them to kill their baby if it's THEIR choice? That's the lie perpetuated by Planned Parenthood. they claim the same motto "We're here to help"... HOGSH*T!!!


    Maybe females should not have been blessed with the ability to procreate at all. That way, the world doesn't have to hear all the ignorant rants about
    "My body, my rights, my choice"..which is the ignorant mantra that Planned Parenthood teaches.

    You agree?
     
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    You're ignorant to Historical facts.. the Book of Enoch was a book that was included in the Bible when it was wrtten. the Protestant Christians(aka Protesting Christians) in charge of the land at the time, took it out, along with the Apocrypha, another book that belongs in the Bible. These 2 books alone explain so much about the world and mankind and God from Genesis to Revelations. These books, imo, connect the Bible perfectly.

    It's a reason people don't understand the Bible. It's been tampered with greatly.

    Just because you only found the Ethiopians who read from it, don't mean squat. At least they were correct in what they were doing. The rest of the world should be reading from them too.

    The book of Enoch explains the Giants, Nephilim, Dinosaurs, UFO's etc...things that need to be in the Bible so people can make the connection.

    Catch up.
     
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    It's obvious to me why you don't recognize a personal attack. Did you come here to debate abortion, or insult those who disagree with you? (rhetorical question)

    Are you?

    Who does own a woman's body? Does she have rights or not?
     
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    But does it explain "nutty as a snickers bar" or "fruit loops" or "crazy as a loon" or "delusional paranoia?"

    So you're convinced those books "belong" in the Bible and their absence is some kind of "protestant conspiracy?" Tell me, what do you call people who think this book should be in the Bible?

    http://www.dianetics.org/#/bookstor...rn-science-of-mental-health-softcover-english


    :eyepopping::psychoitc:
     
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    Your ignorance is profound. that's all I can say. Maybe time will be more kind to your mentals and afford you the ability to understand your purpose on this planet better.

    Or better yet, go ask a Protest-tant Christian, so you can hear it from the horses gullet. If they are true to their sect of Christianity, they will not lie to you.
     
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    OK I asked. And were in agreement.

    anyone who espouses the beliefs you've stated here is nutty as a fruitcake. I don't mean eccentric, or a little out of the mainstream. I mean totally, certifiably, whackadoodle.

    BTW. I'm a Buddhist. You're brand of loony is just one of many I've rejected over the years.
     
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    If you're in agreement, they lied to you. Congratulations, you've been duped.

    and being a Buddhist makes you even more ignorant to the truth.

    Do yourself some good and read up on the Council of Nicaea and how they took books out of the Bible. These were Protetant Christians.

    Do some research and stop guessing at this. The truth is out there.
     

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