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The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is a useful quotation for you.....

    http://www.heartcom.org/FutureVision.htm

    FUTURE VISION


    ....
     
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    Some are.... .
    but I think that many.... such as Howard Storm who I just quoted here again.....
    are sincere and believe firmly that the future can be altered for the better and that
    many, many lives depend on what we do with our lives and whether or not we can
    have a positive effect on the people around us.......

    Hosea 4:6
    "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True.....
    how does the following account make you feel WGabrie?

    Is this somewhat attractive or encouraging to you?

    http://www.heartcom.org/FutureVision.htm

     
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    My idea at this time is that
    the way that fundamental energy Super Strings and
    Super Waves behave..... has led to the existence of
    an astonishing Intelligence plus intelligences......
    nearly an eternity ago.

    I believe it is fear combined with intellectual dishonesty that
    causes humanity to desire to limit intelligent life to 4.5 billion years or less........
    and to the astonishingly low energy four dimensional space - time continuum.....(yes... I did not word that very well....
    but I don't know how to say it more accurately)?!


    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund3.htm

     
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    I have a major disagreement with AboveAlpha's theory as it is quoted in post #1 because......
    I do not believe that all possible choices...... eventually have to be made......

    If we humans.... have genuine freedom of choice... then we do not have to make the
    absolutely worst possible choices...... now or ever... not in this time line.... or in any other.....

    So..... in a way.... I don't think that the word "infinite" is
    entirely accurate......
    due to the force of habits..... plus character.... both positive as well as negative.....
    which causes all new time lines to have at least some sort of a pattern to them.....

    There is also evidence of improvement......
    and a bettering of the future........ less violence..... more hope... in this new time line that we are in now.
     
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    Actually it makes me feel uncomfortable. It reminds me of when my medication failed me and I had my second psychotic break. Before my family figured out I was having a psychotic break, I was in the emergency room two times, and while I was waiting the second time I saw there was a fire in Dubai at a hotel there at the end of 2015. I thought I should put the flames out with my mind.

    And while I was waiting in the room for a doctor to see me I was treated to apocalyptic imagery on the TV there.

    Finally the fire at Dubai was out, but then I thought that dark forces were going to burn down the hospital I was in as revenge. It troubled me to no end that it came over the loud speaker that the fire detection system was back online. Which means it wasn't online before, they were having a problem with it!!! :eekeyes:

    That was a day of horrible anxiety. So, I don't like the theme of evil forces out to destroy the world and you've got to stop them... :omg:
     
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    Yes it does.

    How did you find this?

    But then everyone has their own experiences that are different from each other...
     
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    I found a link to this
    on a Facebook group about near death experiences.
     
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    That has to be one of the best products of NDE, with its loads of revealing ideas and perceptions which as you say should be sorted out in one's own mind without necessarily falling in line with every issue. I didn't have time to assess so many aspects right now, but regard it as unfinished business not to be left forever unattended. However, the downplay on the role of intelligence when fundamental energy is taking its first baby steps might be a bit too abrupt, but I'll leave that alone while it's recently being tackled by notable authors/researchers.
     
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    Would not one of the probable implications of Multiverse Theory be that we.......
    mere humans.... have far more real power to change the future than we tend to imagine?


    http://www.near-death.com/science/research/future.html


    ...

    Also.... this future.... that we are living in right now.... has never happened before...... and cannot be absolutely predicted.

    Even if somebody has somehow seen a future..... that seems like our future in many ways......
    Albert Einstein implied that if we observe the future........ we change that future simply by observing it........
    we truly are making a new history.
     
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    Personally....
    .. I am convinced that not all possible realities actually come to pass......

    I believe that there is a definite delay between the initiation of new time lines.......
    and no time line comes to pass that was not decided on by a number of people who
    decided to do one possible choice......
    over other possible choices.....

    We humans play a huge role in what actually comes to pass in Applied Multiverse Theory.....
     
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    This may sound rather strange to you.......
    but I personally think that this Multiverse Theory may be one of the most
    important ideas to come into Philosophy in centuries.


    http://www.chabad.org/library/moshiach/article_cdo/aid/101679/jewish/The-Personality-of-Mashiach.htm
     
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    I watch Rick and Morty.
     
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    However....

    Lightening never strikes the same spot twice.

    Entropy says that when you travel back in time, you're travelling from a timeline that has you to another one where you might not even be born because of random events altering everything making it 'not your time line'.
     
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    I haven't caught any episodes of them yet.....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_and_Morty

    ... so I am not quite sure how this can fit in with Multiverse Theory. My guess is that you are probably being sarcastic........ and you aren't exactly a fan of the idea of Alternate Universes.
     
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    Wow!

    Exactly! You would have gotten along great with AboveAlpha if you had been here while he was posting here........ or if and when he makes it back.

    Beginning February 25, 2015 I tried my best to convince him to begin a campaign for the office of National Leader of the G. O. P. or....... for the Democrats because he could have gone either way.


    Should AboveAlpha allow us to set him up for the office of POTUS as early as 2016?
     
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    Trust me, Rick and Morty is apt for multiverse discussion.
     
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    ... For the uninitiated..

    Rick and Morty
     
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    It's depressing how unlikely you are ever to ever be able to travel home again afterwards.
     
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    Wow! Well yeah it's like that but in a multiverse there are infinite versions of us.
     
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    In addition there are an infinite number of Universes where we don't exist and can't exist because they have different natural laws.
     
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    That is basically what near death experiencer Christian Andreason reported......
    the universe and Multiverse are teeming with life.......
    much of it is in fifth, sixth, seventh and higher dimensional energy, (that is probably the wrong way of wording it, but alas.... AboveAlpha isn't here to correct me)!
     
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