The Pope contradicts himself

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  1. SFwriter

    SFwriter New Member

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    I read an article by the Associated Press in The Richmond Times Dispatch (November 27, 2011) http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2011/nov/27/tdmain08-pope-calls-sex-abuse-scourge-for-society-ar-1495848/, where Pope Benedict XVI (he likes his eggs done 16 times--bad joke, I know) stated that all church denominations, not just the Catholic denomination, should seek to wipe the 'scourge' of pedophilia from their administration. Well, I can (*)(*)(*)(*) well get behind that folks, with just one hitch: the Pope needs to listen to the things he's said in the past!

    This same Pope has stated before that pedophilia wasn't considered a bad thing up until the 1970s http://www.sott.net/articles/show/220257-Vatican-Christmas-Shocker-Pope-says-child-rape-isn-t-that-bad-was-normal-back-in-his-day, and correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems totally different to what he's saying now. I'm confused--is child raping a sin, or is it something we've forgotten how good it was? I think it's not only a sin, but it's a disgrace, and anybody who hurts a kid should be weeded out of society by lethal injection. That may sound extreme, but I have no use for pedophiles.

    So in summary: if you're going to call pedophilia a scourge, then don't flip-flop. I hate pedophilia as much as anybody can, and I never swayed from that. Catholic Church, wake the hell up!
     
  2. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

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    a preacher can molest a child and be saved

    divorce gets you excommunicated
     
  3. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Makes sense. lol
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Divorce does not get you excommunicated. Remarriage after divorce does.
     
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    Divorce and remarriage is the equivalent of adultery. One who continuously lives in a state of adultery cannot receive the sacraments. The real sin is not the sin itself, but the refusal to turn from sin regardless of consequences. That might be what Jesus meant when he said blaspheming the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin.
     
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    Felicity Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How is it a contradiction? Why can't pedophilia be a scourge and also not properly recognized as such until after 1970?
     
  7. Blackrook

    Blackrook Banned

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    Attitudes have changed.

    When I was a kid and my Mom whacked me around there was no one I could tell.

    If I told my teachers they would have done nothing. If I told the cops they would have done nothing. My Dad did nothing.

    That's the way it was back then.

    Things changed when Joan Crawford's daughter came out with that book "Mommie Dearest." That was the first time a person was "outed" as a child abuser.

    My grandmother's reaction was that Joan Crawford's daughter was an ingrate for exposing her mother. She had no sympathy for the victim at all.

    In the same way, adult sexual relations with teenagers of both sexes was winked at but officially not tolerated. But no one got in trouble for it.
     
  8. Daggdag

    Daggdag Well-Known Member

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    That's only for divorce that was not because of infidelity. The bible allows for divorce when a spouse breaks their marriage vows. I'm pretty sure the catholic church follows this, but it has to be oked by a cardinal.
     
  9. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

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    then the liars who false witness, shall be the unforgiveable.

    ie... did you see jesus call himself 'christ'?
     
  10. saintmichaeldefendthem

    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    The Catholic Church's stance and condemnation of pederasty is as ancient as it is unequivocal. The Pope is in no way ambiguous in his opposition to sexual child abuse in line with Sacred Tradition:

     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    continued.....

     
  12. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    It is either one flip flop and accept the truth or continue to refuse to accept the truth, it is good that the Pope has flip flop to the truth and we should commend him for that.

    Ironic isn't it, we want the Pope to speak against child molestation and when he does he is being criticise for it.
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*)ed english orthography - how is someone able to know that "catholic" is spelled in the english speaking world p-e-d-o-p-h-i-l-i-a?

    http://youtu.be/INkKslXjFnk
     

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