The Post says: give it up Mr. Present for your sake and the nation's

It is not. Stop with the BS it's over. There was no fraud, there was no irregularity's, your guy lost, stop crying, pull your big girl panties up and move on already.

 

That he believes what tens of millions of Americans know - that he actually won. Hopefully this will lead to ending the practices of the "greatest election fraud organization in our country's history" - to quote Joe Biden. To concede would be falsely presented by the plutocrats corporate-fascist MSM and newspapers they own to Trump conceded his claim that he actually won re-election.

 

You mean the 'evidence' that is due to arrive any day now?
That evidence?

 

Wow, amazing.
Is it grape or cherry this week?

 

Choice of words is important. Tens of millions of Americans don't 'know'.

 

Your problem is that since 2008, no Republican can hope to become POTUS with the majority of votes.

Only a victory by the Electoral College is possible.

And internal migration in the country is causing the Liberals to turn traditionally red states into tossup or pale blue.

Arizona and Georgia....

Barring a major economic crisis, Trump will be the last Republican POTUS for the next 12 years.

This is my prediction, trust me.

 

You are the one who made the personal attack saying that Southerners were smarter than me. The point is that Southerners were obviously not in favor of the amendment outlawing slavery. That is a statement of fact not an insult. Ok so you can go and try and prove that no Southerners tried to or wanted or hoped that the SUPREMES would turn over the anti slavery amendment that stole their property - slaves.

I never said that Southerners would have had an easy time making such a case I said that they hoped for it.

I would argue if I was arguing the case against the 13 th amendment that slaves being legally recognized as chattel hence property an amendment that takes away ones property is unconstitutional. So Inwould use the concept of unconstitutional constitutional amendments.
Confederate states in 1866 did not have representation in the US. ingress therefore I would argue that the 13th amendment was passed by an unconstitutional Congress hense making it an unconstitutional constitutional amendment.

You can disagree with my interpretation of facts but that does not mean that makes someone dumber than Southerners if one has an interpretation that you do not agree with.

Just look at what the Trump boys are going in trying to get the SCOTUS to overturn the 2020 election for phony BS charges of fraud. Trump hoped that SCOTUS would overturn the election.

 

No. Today the country just enjoyed the most secure election in its history.
The narrative of fraud is a lie. Maybe one day you will see that.

 

So why would you claim that it was an "overwhelming" victory when Trump won by a NEGATIVE 3 million votes in 2016?

 

Who is Mr. Present! Certainly can't be Biden. He hasn't been present during this entire century!

 

Yes of course, we all know that. And, as the Crime Capitals of America AKA Blue Cities such as LA, NY, SF Seattle swell and keep attracting illegals, homeless, habitually unemployed and the like, it'll get worse for America.

 

Do not recall if I claimed exactly that, but an overwhelming electoral win it certainly was.

 

Now, where else have I heard that?

Ah yes... CNN and PMSNBC, right?

 

A president's belief about something as serious as accusing your opponent cheating, he should be responsible enough to base it on real evidence. But, like many a fool who supports Trump, they do not understand what proof and evidence really is, that their so-called evidence isn't really evidence at all, it's just a consortium of ad hoc irregularities, the kind found in all elections, the kind that were ignored by all previous presidents because they were keen enough to understand they do not constitute evidence of cheating.

 

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/1...ture-government-coordinating-council-election
“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.

“When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”

 

And Biden has the same margin in the Electoral vote this year ... PLUS a 7 million vote lead in the popular ...
Still overwhelming?

Whatever, dude.

 

So, tens of millions of Americans are all lumped into a single category of dimwit? Pssst... stupid people are still quite capable of breaking BAD when they are convinced they've been robbed. The truth is that very little of what has been offered to the courts has even been glimpsed. MOST of it is simply being ignored and after 4 years of dealing with over-the-top vitriol against our duly elected president, we are all out of patience and bubblegum...

 

There is a logical explanation and whether one heard it or not appears to directly correlate to their media source.

Evidently many people have crappy information sources. Here’s what they should have known:

-there was a potentially deadly virus running rampant

-in response state legislatures eased access to vote by mail

-in response the Trump Administration sued many of those states but lost, e.g. vote-by-mail was tantamount to “cheating”.

-in response Trump told his constituency not to vote by mail but rather vote in person

-in response Republican controlled legislatures implemented rules that mail-in votes could not be counted until Election Day (go ahead guess those states).

in response leading up to and on Election Day we were informed the way same day and mail-in ballots were being counted in different states we’d receive skewed results Election Day and we’d need to wait for days if not weeks for all ballots to counted.

Trump voters have been misinformed and abused for his entire term by your chosen media, Party, and messiah.

I’m sorry that happened but damn, it’s time to grow a spine.

 

Your mental health hasn’t been in question since you voted for Dirty Donnie.

 

Nope you started with the invective that was totally uncalled for.

Well states had already had such laws and when put in place ended the slavery without any compensation. Lincoln did not free the slaves in the north because that would have been one of the problems with such a declaration. But the states he did he had the case they were in rebellion and at war and had declared themselves a separate country not under the Constitution. The 13th declares humans cannot be property, that the right to ones freedom trumps the right to the property. Property rights are subject to laws, easements, and regulations such as EPA. But I've never heard of such a case being brought. If you want to make the case that the 13th Amendment is unconstitutional I'd love to hear it and what would be the remedy for the families of the former slaveowners, restitution?

 

What are you basing this courageous prediction, on the stunning performance of Democrats in Congress?

 

Again, for as long as Democrats bashing Republicans, I sleep soundly. It is when and if Democrats start praising Republicans, I’ll start worrying.

 

Not only hear but the MSM and talking heads still don't accept Bush43 won the election and claim it was RUSSIA that cause Hillary's defeat.

That is all the left has to quote, bumper sticker slogans like Trump is a Russian agent, Bush was selected not elected, Hillary and her incessant book tours and speaking tours whining that she REALLY won and Trump was illegitimate.

So don't whine about Trump.

Not for lack of trying the Russian collusion, the sending a high level Obama DOJ official wear a wire to try to get a 25th Amendment removal, the bogus impeachment..

There is no "the popular vote" to win or lose, remember your civics? She lost 30 elections only winning 21 of them, that is why she was not elected President by the Electoral college. And she has been whining and pointing fingers ever since.

It was an attempt first to deny him the election and then get him removed overturning the election. He would not be President. And it was based on Russian disinformation she bought and paid for and then leaked to the press and given to her buddies at the FBI who did not want Trump to be the President. And then attempts to set him up for a 25th or perjury trap.

Look, please at least read the bolded part. You are either deliberately ignoring these facts or you somehow missed this sliver of rational thought:

She had no cause, there were elections to contest. We did not have the election irregularities being sworn to or mishandling of ballots. I assure you had she believed she had a scintilla of a legal contest she would have filed it. Just as Gore did in 2000.

The constitutional matter of judges and local election officials changing the rules of the elections and the equal protection matters are no theories, we KNOW they issued their orders. This is not a made up Russiagate, we have lots of issues with this election and the processes that were used and those still need to be addressed.

Industrialization was already occurring and slavery would have eventually been too expense. But it is a moot argument the North didn't go to war with the South to end slavery.

So back to the current event.

 

My friend, you and yours seems to be missing a point. What was sleepy Joel’s platform that caused people to overwhelmingly vote for him?

It was “I’m not Trump and Trump caused COVID”

It was a an overwhelming vote to get rid of Trump and not for sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe is useless.

 

Demographics.