They vary quite a bit and are much more progressive, when you add what we currently spend on healthcare to our current tax liabilities we get fairly close to many of them, individuals and families with low income actually pay a higher tax percentage than any other nation that has a national health program while the wealthy, especially the 0.01%+ pay significantly less.
Glad you agree finally that raising taxes won't fix the problem. My solution would be similar to model in Sweden....where they moved to privatizing their program: https://www.heritage.org/social-security/report/pension-reform-sweden-lessons-american-policymakers
Here are a few more examples of how most socialized systems are beginning to fail.... and a rapid rate. Sweden Is Upgrading to Private Healthcare Finland's government falls after attempts to reduce healthcare spending fail Healthcare costs rise further in Switzerland
One example: We subsidize corn. The amount of sweetened beverages Americans consume (High fructose corn syrup) has given us record levels of diabetes. 1 in 3 Americans are diabetic or pre-diabetic. 10% of food stamp/SNAP/EBT benefits are spend on sweetened beverages. Once diabetes sets in, you and I are forced to subsidize the medical care and pharm products. This one example is already a triple subsidy.
Raising taxes while allowing the problem to fester is not a fix. The rate of illness is increasing which increases expenses while reducing the amount of those who can contribute. Unless we take measures to PREVENT illness, the nose dive, regardless of the angle, will eventually hit bottom.
You and I are being forced to buy it for them and then medicate them so that they can continue their poor habits. (Assuming you pay taxes)
Are you saying you’ve been forced to go to the store and buy soda for people? I know I haven’t. Anyone who purchased soda is doing it by their own choice and no one else’s.
It is one thing if a person wants to slowly kill themselves drinking soda and being fat, lazy slobs. It is something else entirely if they expect the rest of us to pick up the tab for their medical care. And it is something else even worse if tax payers are expected not only to pay for their medical care, but to provide them with money to buy the food that is killing them to begin with. (ie, taxpayers paying for "food stamps" and having the recipients use the money to buy soda and junk food.) It's one thing to do what you want on your dime. It's something else when we (taxpayers) are expected to subsidize your irresponsibility. (Gee, this is sounding like the "poor people having kids they can't afford" thread )
No. I went to work, the government forcefully confiscated my money and did the rest. You are confusing who is being forced and who is choosing. They are choosing to consume what you and I are forced to pay for.
Please quote where I claimed otherwise. Does their choice somehow justify forcing you and I to buy it for them?
Are you fcuking kidding me? You kept saying we force them to consume soda over and over and over. Hell, I lost count at the number of times you said it. I don’t like paying welfare to able bodied and able minded people either but what can we do? Our govt will never cut off welfare to everyone which is the only way to weed out the scammers.
“You and I are being forced to buy it for them” No one is forcing these people to buy sodas, except for those actually buying the soda. Which I know isn’t me.
Minus the blatant bias of some of your articles they pretty much all point to a public-private-government system as the only viable solution. I would agree with this. You cannot sell healthcare like toasters, there is very little to no ability to cross shop services especially under emergency conditions but giving government the reigns causes rationing to keep costs down. You have further reinforced my initial point, we need a viable public option for all citizens with the ability to purchase additional insurances as you deem prudent.
I can't force you to comprehend a simple sentence. How does that translate into them being forced to consume it? I never said that and you refuse to address what I did say.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Look, look! an actual idea from a rightie! Actually I like it. As a matter of fact it is how I set up my retirement using a 401K, or IRA for the private portion. 16.5% out of the employee pocket won't sit well, but other than that I could support it.
Libertarians, taxes are not going away, ever. National health care or single payer or medicareforall is coming: millennials and young genxrs will demand it.
