The real Ron Paul exposed.. !

It looks like the masses following their leader have been duped again.

Romney was right to say he is NOT from DC and this garbage.

I am still waiting for that Romney crony politics..except he never took a DIME in Government taxpayer MONEY ..EVER.

Try " etch a sketching" that anti Romney people.
I have already shown NEWT is paying himself and his wife and foundation $500,000 while in debt to 90 other idiots who supported him.

Santorum and his wife hit the beach in PR while there campaigning hard.
His kids went to Hawaii..


But RON PAUL TOO ?

http://economy.money.cnn.com/2012/0..._topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=

Among the findings:
- 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaigns or political action committees.
- 44 representatives have family employed as lobbyists or in governmental affairs.
- 14 collected interest on personal loans made to their own campaigns.
The report runs 343 pages, and details all kinds of activities. Ron Paul, the only member of the House who is also a presidential candidate, is said to have paid the salaries of his daughter, grandson, daughter's mother-in-law, granddaughter, grandson-in-law and another relative through his campaign committee.

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while it continues it is not Illegal... what chances does Paul have if he is paying his family off instead of buying ads ?

NONE.

The swamp is full...

Santorum and newt were just as guilty when they were there.

 

Here is the full report for all 50 states..Page 304 starting for Ron Paul..
Click on a state and see if your person just spreads the wealth to their family..

http://www.citizensforethics.org/page/-/PDFs/Reports/Family_Affair_House_2012_CREW.pdf?nocdn=1

End..

Republicans and Democrats are exposed..

 

Corporate Welfare Romney took plenty of tax payers money.

When he bought Steel Dynamics he received over 30 million dollars in subsidies for the plant before he sold it.

 

Since you just said something without a link..my own search reveals..


http://news.investors.com/article/5...romney-bain-capital-funded-steel-dynamics.htm


That's not the view at Fort Wayne, Ind.-based Steel Dynamics (STLD), where Bain invested just as the company was getting off the ground in 1994. Today, Steel Dynamics is the fifth-largest U.S. steel maker, employing 6,437 workers, according to Chairman and just-retired CEO Keith Busse.

That number includes about 4,000 new jobs, with the rest coming via acquisitions.

But it goes further than that, Busse says. For every steel worker directly employed, there are three or four jobs created by a network of suppliers. He estimates the total employment base as the result of Steel Dynamics' success at around 25,000.

"They were great to work with," Busse recalled of Bain.

Steel Dynamics was founded by Busse and two other industry veterans in 1993 with plans for a plant in Butler, Ind. They were looking for venture capital to help them.

"It normally takes two years to make a steel plant profitable," Busse recalled. "We didn't have two years. We were running out of money."

GE Capital (GE) was interested, but CEO Jack Welch told Busse he didn't want to fund the whole thing because it would be the biggest gamble GE had ever taken on a startup.

Welch brought in Bain, which investigated the project. Busse said he met with Romney. Bain liked the deal and invested $18.3 million.

"Their general strategy is to exit early," Busse said. Bain later sold its stake for $104 million, according to a 2000 prospectus from Deutsche Bank.

The private equity firm should have held on longer. Steel Dynamics went public in November 1996, finishing its first month of trading with a split-adjusted price of 4.56 a share. The stock reached a peak of 40.92 in June 2008 for a gain of 797%.

End.


Sorry ... etch a sketch erased that story for the anti Romney folks.

 

this is ron paul's brother

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Wayne A. Paul (brother):
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• Mr. Paul is the owner of Paul, Phipps & Co. an accounting firm.
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During the 2008
election cycle, Rep. Paul’s campaign committee paid the firm $48,065 for accounting
services and $608 in payroll taxes and postage expenses.
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• During the 2010 election cycle, Rep. Paul’s leadership PAC paid Paul, Phipps & Co.
$677 for accounting services.

From the link above..

 

You want to hold this guy up as a paragon of virtue against Ron Paul?



And speaking of family ties, check this out.

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When asked about his plan for higher education, Mitt Romney has taken to endorsing the for-profit higher education industry, even singling out a specific college business, Full Sail University. When speaking with a local newspaper before the Iowa caucus, he volunteered Full Sail and other for-profit colleges as an answer to the rising costs of college tuition. He has also suggested Full Sail when speaking to college students in both New Hampshire and Ohio.


Full Sail, like many for-profit colleges, is an odd choice for a conservative. These schools depend on billions in taxpayer aid, much of it wasted on advertisements and bonuses for executives. And as many have demonstrated, companies like Full Sail have a less than stellar track record when it comes to future employment and debt for their students.

As the New York Times pointed out, Full Sail is owned by a private equity firm called TA Associates, which is run by C. Kevin Landry, a major donor to Mitt Romney’s super PAC. According to Bloomberg News, Landry has now given $100,000 to Restore Our Future, the pro-Romney super PAC blanketing the airwaves in Republican primary states.

But what hasn’t been reported until now is the Romney family business connection to Full Sail. In 2008, Mitt Romney’s oldest son Tagg founded Solamere Capital, a “fund of fund” investment company that offered clients the unique opportunity to co-invest with an elite set of private equity firms. Many of the private equity firms connected to Solamere, it turns out, are prominent political allies of Tagg’s father. The line between business and politics becomes even more hazy given the fact that Mitt Romney and his wife provided a $10 million investment with Tagg’s firm, and Romney’s top campaign fundraising operative, Spencer Zwick, doubles as an executive with Solamere.

On a prospectus of Solamere Capital, obtained by the Boston Globe, Tagg indicated that his clients would have a chance to invest with companies owned by TA Associates, the firm that owns Full Sail.

Of course, TA Associates owns other businesses, and it’s possible Tagg’s clients are co-investing with TA Associates on deals unrelated to Full Sail. TA Associates, however, appears to be expanding into the for-profit college industry. Last year, TA Associates completed deals to help create two new for-profit school companies: The Rocky Mountain School of Design in Colorado and the Los Angeles Film School in California. Mitt Romney’s recent decision to embrace for-profit colleges may mean more taxpayer money for companies like the Los Angeles Film School.

The complex web of relationships between Full Sail’s owners and Tagg Romney’s investment business with TA Associates presents a conflict of interest for the presidential candidate. Is Mitt Romney promoting a greater degree of taxpayer money to an industry because of his family’s connection to it? Will investors with Tagg’s firm and donors to Romney’s super PAC be given preferential treatment in a Romney administration?

What is known is that Romney has received between $100,000 and $1 million in returns from his stake in the investment company that is partnered with TA Associates, a private equity firm that is getting rich of for-profit universities — while Romney on the campaign trail has touted for-profit education as the future.

http://www.alternet.org/education/1...is_father's_endorsement_of_for-profit_schools

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Here's a video of Mitt touting these for profit schools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wF_9r6-DLTw#!

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And here's an item on the cozy relationship between Romney's campaign and his super pac.

When Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign needs advice on direct mail strategies for reaching voters, it looks to TargetPoint Consulting. And when the independent “super PAC” supporting him needs voter research, it, too, goes to TargetPoint.

Sharing a consultant would seem to be an embodiment of coordination between a candidate and an independent group, something prohibited under federal law. But TargetPoint is just one of a handful of interconnected firms in the same office suite in Alexandria, Va., working for either the Romney campaign or the super PAC Restore Our Future.

Elsewhere in the same suite is WWP Strategies, whose co-founder is married to TargetPoint’s chief executive and works for the Romney campaign. Across the conference room is the Black Rock Group, whose co-founder — a top Romney campaign official in 2008 — now helps run both Restore Our Future and American Crossroads, another independent group that spoke up in defense of Mr. Romney’s candidacy in January. Finally, there is Crossroads Media, a media placement firm that works for American Crossroads and other Republican groups.

More at.... http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/26/u...r-pac-and-romney-campaign.html?pagewanted=all

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6NArPUFLRI&feature=player_embedded"]Romney: The Etch A Sketch Candidate - YouTube[/ame]

 

ron paul is a flip-flopper too

the death penalty, don't ask don't tell, from republican to libertarian and then back again

 

So they shouldnt have paid for the accounting?

 

so you think it's appropriate for ron paul to funnel campaign donations to his family?

just imagine what would happen if hell froze over and he became president

 

I will ask you again. Should he have gotten the accounting done for free? If his campaign needed accounting done he should not have hired family members to do it?

Less then 50k for 2 election cycles worth of accounting i think is quite reasonable.... Or do you think when people campaign money just goes into an account and no one tracks it?

 

he should have hired an independent accounting firm, not his brother

what if bernanke hired his brother for the regular federal reserve audits?

ron paul would likely have been all up in arms about that

what about the other 5 member of ron's family that got money?

i think lots of things go unobserved, untracked and unreported

it's practically a moot point since ron hasn't won any primaries anyway, but it just goes to show how career politicians like ron paul operate, talking on way then walking another

 

It doesnt help to google anything if you have Romney blinders on.

Romney's actions:
http://www.salon.com/2011/12/21/romney’s_record_as_a_crony_capitalist/
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/12/nation/la-na-bain-subsidies-20120113

Romneys words:
"The U.S. government shouldn’t be playing venture capitalist,” “The very process invites cronyism and outright corruption.”

Corporate Welfare Romney run amuck

 

So? He won't kill children overseas. Romney will kill children overseas. Not being a moral dwarf, I care more about that than alleged nepotism.

 

Your information comes from a far left radical organization that has no credibility. Why give it any?

I am not a fan of Paul as many posts by me will attest. But I'm strictly against intentional lies by either side. And the left has numerous sites dedicated to posting negative lies about any opponent of the left. And the right has a few too.

 

This garbage about left or right needs to stop.
The LEFT LEANING organisation painted Santorum # 3 most corrupt when he was in congress..

If you actually studied this report goes after EVERYONE..left ..right or so called tea party middle.

ANY candidate can use what ever firm they want..PRESENTING his brother as another anti big government common worker is not right..
Using every family members down to grandkids is fine..except I showed that the last 2 times he did exactly the same thing..so every 4 years he gets a FREE YEAR ?

Paul has turned this into an industry for his family.

 

I don't read their "reports," I read the credentials of the persons making the 'reports.' When they have been in the left camp their entire adult lives, I don't need to read what I know they're going to say.

For the same reasons that I don't listen to Limbaugh or Beck. I know what they are going to say so I can better use the time more constructively. And I might agree with much of what they say, but I know it will NOT be unbiased.

 

So then what reports or studies do you trust or read..
You know the Bible is biased right ?

or that Constitution had political leanings.

Our constitution could NOT be passed today.

 

Doesn't seem that any sensible law could be passed today. So do we blame the recently elected members of Congress from the tea party, or do we blame the dinosaurs that have sat in Congress for 2 or 3 decades? Do we blame 100 Senators and 434 Representatives and give ONE dinosaur a pass?

I look for official documentation instead of opinions. Official documentation like Paul's record in Congress and his various attempts at a Senator-ship or the Presidency.
All of which are woefully inept. Congress, Paul NEVER passed a meaningful bill, NEVER blocked a bad bill. 3 decades of nothing. Trying is very trying. A sitting Representative loses in the Republican primary to a just turned Democrat for the Senate. Comical! Now we have his 3rd ridiculous run at the Presidency. How badly has he done in ALL THREE? This time he's doing far better than the first 2. At the half way point, he has a mere, paltry, hilarious 26 solid delegates. The pitifullness of this attempt shows how laughable were his other, even less viable attempts.
Will a few of Paul's preachings last??? Maybe. Paul himself will fade into nothingness.

 

@ Dan..

At least you're on the right track.

The link I posted is by a left leaning deal.

Starting on Page 304 they show their arguments against Paul..with numbers by each claim for YOU or I to do further research... referring to the office of freedom of data ?
It is public information they have taken the time to research and condense..

A worth while read...no matter who or what they might lean to..

 

I know right? What was he thinking.

I know for a fact his grand-daughter was working on the campaign in 2008, she was in charge of social media outreach (as in, managing social media pages and responding to emails and messages).

Jesse, is his campaign manager.
T
hey are paid because they are working.

Expenses covered are expenses that contributed to the campaign, like business expenses.

What is troubling is that this is brought up but the fact that Ron Paul has increasing returned more and more of his congressional budget (paid for by taxes/public) to the Treasury each year is ignored.

http://ivn.us/2011/04/02/ron-paul-returns-over-140000-his-office-budget-us-treasury/

Ron Paul is incredibly thrifty with tax payer money.

With contributions (private) to his political campaign he likes to hire members of his family that are interested in the work. He uses his brothers accounting firm, maybe because he trusts him.

Sounds pretty solid to me.

 

Granny wantin' to know...

... if ya got a pic of Ron Paul in just a thong?

 

wE GOT A PICTURE OF sANTORUM WITH sANTORUM ALL OVER HIS LIPS.

 

i don't know what he was thinking, but i think ron paul should have a clue how this would look in the court of public opinion when he professes to have integrity and moral character, especially since he constantly rails against government corruption

ron paul should have hired an independent accountant, not his brother