The red wave didn't turn out how the Republicans had hoped.. here's my take why

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  1. Overitall

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    :) Hardly.

    Too bad the media didn't report on the Hillary investigations as they have on Trump's. How much attention did they give to the Clinton Foundation?
     
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    The abortion issue on a federal level is a non-starter because of SCOTUS...That is, unless plans on packing SCOTUS are instituted.

    I can't believe so many dams were duped into believing it was:
    (1) Possible to reinstate abortion on a federal level
    (2) There were going to be bans on abortion.
     
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    LOL. It was in the news for 4 years, but of course it got old after some time.
     

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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An honorable mention is hardly a comparison.
     
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    "Hey Now", "But Hillary!!??"...... isn't it time to be "over it all"? :D
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If live broadcast of her grillings is "honorable mention" to you, then so be it. I have no clue what your complaint is.
     
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    Re naval gazing and "French Literature:

     
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    Once again you reject well documented facts in favor of the political propaganda generated by our corrupt bipartisan ruling political class.

    For instance, the year that the "GOP" said "YES" to the DP.

    Meantime, a new power appeared upon the scene, or rather an old power of government paralyzed by the Civil War began to re-assert itself, and effectively stopped Northern Federal dictatorship to enforce democracy in the South. This was the Supreme Court. Johnson had had no chance to make appointments to the Supreme Court, although he had long relied upon that court to overthrow Reconstruction. The court, however, hesitated before overwhelming public opinion.

    In 1870, Northern Big Business designated two railroad and corporation lawyers from Pennsylvania and New York for appointment. It was charged that they were purposely put on the bench in order to reverse the Legal Tender decision, and protect the bondholders in collecting at par debts contracted when paper money was at a discount of 30% to 60%. At any rate, they, together with one other appointment made in 1872-1874, changed the complexion of the Supreme Court, and when Waite was appointed Chief Justice, over the protest of Charles Sumner, the reconstructed court was ready for the appeals concerning the laws to enforce the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments.

    It is significant that the very center of Northern capitalistic power, which protected and buttressed the new monopoly of Big Business, turned, and with the same gesture freed land and capital in the South from any fear of control by black and white labor.

    In the Cruikshank case, the court declared that "The right of suffrage is not a necessary attribute of national citizenship... That duty was originally assumed by the state, and it still remains there. The only obligation resting upon the United States is to see that the states do not deny the right. This the amendment guarantees, but no more. The power of the national government is limited to the enforcement of the rights guaranteed." 37a

    Both the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments were thus made innocuous so far as the Negro was concerned, and the Fourteenth Amendment in particular became the chief refuge and bulwark of corporations. It was thus that finance and the power of wealth accomplished through the Supreme Court what it had not been able to do successfully through Congress.”
    BLACK RECONSTRUCTION IN AMERICA 1860- 1880, W.E.B. Dubois, introduction by David Levering Lewis, XVII THE PROPAGANDA OF HISTORY, the Free Press new York 1998. pp. 690. 691.
     
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    Seems you’re saying if congress passes a law on abortion it would be ruled unconstitutional. I’m not certain about that, but then I’m no constitutional lawyer. I highly doubt congress will ever pass a law on abortion. Even the Democrats when they had the majority couldn’t agree on the time limits when abortion would be legal and when restrictions would kick in. Hence, they did nothing when they could have.
     
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    Real Communists are libertarians. IOW, they are always a bit confused. ;-)

    "For when all have learned to administer and really independently administer social production, independently keep accounts and exercise control over the idlers, the gentlefolk, the swindlers and other such 'guardians of the traditions of capitalism', then any escape from this popular accounting and control will inevitably become so incredibly difficult, such a rare exception, and will probably be accompanied by so swift and serious a punishment (for the workers are practical people and not sentimental little intellectuals, and they will scarcely allow anyone to mess around with them) that the necessity to observe the uncomplicated basic rules of all human intercourse will very soon become a habit.

    And then the door will be open wide for the transition from the first phase of communist society towards its highest phase, and simultaneously towards the complete withering away of the state."
    "The State and Revolution",
    VI Lenin, Penguin, 1992, p. 92.
     
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    Don't confuse an observational opinion with complaining. This is not an important enough matter for me to present you with facts, but I have a strong feeling that if you compare the coverage of Clinton to that of Trump there would be no comparison.
     
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    Yes, but so far the Yankee Dollar has been very resilient.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/13/el-...n-60percent-to-60-million-one-year-later.html

    Or:




    It's a fact mon. ;-)
     
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    What coverage of Trump are you even talking about? I am talking about 4 years of Clinton investigations. There were no less than 10 about Benghazi and god knows how many about her PC, and the FBI released a letter about it just before the elections. It happened, she lost, and people moved on. Not sure why Trump apologists can't move on and instead insist on portraying him as the perpetual victim.
     
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    Very resiliant indeed .. which is why we can still print with relative impunity .. the reason it being resiliant because of 1) World reserve currency 2) The world is awash in debt and economic instability .. rats running to the slowest sinking ship. Saw the same thing after the 2008 crash .. even though it was the US who precipitated it.


    Things that make you go hmmmmmmm :)
     
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    Why Bitcoin and El Salvador are in the crosshairs.
     
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    We keep seeing him as a perpetual victim thanks to those like you and the MSM.

    A simple search would answer your question, but let me get you started.

    https://www.newsmax.com/Politics/me...d-trump-hillary-clinton/2016/10/25/id/755294/
     
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    Oh, its my fault. LOL.

    Got it.

    Sigh........Trump apologists.....
     
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    Well, he does seem to be fixated in your mind and I've yet to see you say anything good about him. So there's that. :)
     
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    Dude, I was talking specifically about DeSantis and you INSISTED to make it about your lord and messiah Donald Trump. I can assure you I don't give a rats ass about that whiner, because that's all he does, - he whines and you are doing it on his behalf right now. So there's that.
     
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    Do you have this much trouble with paint by numbers? :)
     
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    You are mind reading again. You aren't very good at that either.
     
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    They CAN pass a new law at Federal level. The SCOTUS ruling was about Roe vs Wade, and nothing more. I doubt they'll do it, because the they benefit from the current situation more than the GOP does politically.
     
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    Damn! I agree with you.
     
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    Actually it has a lot of revelevance. All of their conspiracy theories from election fraud to the Paul Pelosi attack has been tweeted, stated, encouraged, and so forth from Trump to his supporters to most of the GOP field, even on conservative TV stations, radio programs, and social media. And people believe it, still.
     
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    And yet, there are some who think that will happen to Biden and Harris with Trump as Speaker of the House. That little plan is still circulating and being encouraged by Trump and his die-hard supporters.

    Getting the House does not mean Biden is stopped. It means you guys will NOW have to work with the other side to get a budget passed and deal with some very serious issues while compromising. That is what the voting public wants. Otherwise, it will be a very short two-year stint has GOP controlled house.
     

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