The red wave didn't turn out how the Republicans had hoped.. here's my take why

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  1. Curious Always

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    huh?
     
  2. Alwayssa

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    The Freedom Caucus still wants to try to nominate Trump as Speaker of the House with Scott Perry or Jim Jordan as Majority leader.
     
  3. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have to be in the House to be speaker.
     
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    SCOTUS has already decreed that a federal abortion law is unconstitutional.
     
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    No, communists are authoritarian, er, totalitarian and libertarians are the opposite of authoritarian, er, libertarian.:roll:

    It's possible your post was in jest but I've seen way too many posts on DP that have no clue about the difference between authoritarian and libertarian.
     
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    Historically some people in your party have been carpetbaggers. In 1964, Robert Kennedy was elected to be one of the senators from New York, and he didn't have much to do with the state. Hillary Clinton was elected New York senator in 2000 after living in Washington for 8 years. I guess there is no such thing as a Democrat carpetbagger
     
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    Yeah, you on the Left wouldn't want anyone to espouse the idea of America ever being 'great' again... it spoils all the momentum you build up for a great internationalistic hodge-podge of shared mediocrity, misery, poverty, reliance on government handouts and 'subsidies', and other trappings of Socialism.

    Not ALL of us who do remember when America was truly 'great' are, or ever were, big Trump devotees. We voted for him because, with all his faults, he was far better than either of the Democrats he ran against. He needs now to retire, play golf, and enjoy being a billionaire... and leave the presidency to younger, brighter minds that perhaps one day could help make America 'great' again... but at the rate we're going, I doubt it. :lonely:
     
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    From the horse's mouth -- so to speak. ;-)

    "'The eradication of state power' which as a 'parasitic excrescence'; it's 'amputation'; it's 'destruction'; 'state power is now becoming outmoded'; these are the expressions used by Marx about the state when appraising and analyzing the experience of the commune." All this was written a little less than half a century ago; and now it is like having to carry out excavations in order to bring a knowledge of undistorted Marxism to the broad masses." THE STATE AND REVOLUTION, VI Lenin, Penguin, 1992 p. 49.

    Of course, Marxism, in practice as opposed to theory, embraced the whole Fascist program.
     
  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    When did it ever stop being "great"? I think the greatness was never diminished more than during the Trump administration.

    Fortunately we got rid of the creep just in time for our greatness to be restored to its full force.
     
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    We've been going downhill as a nation ever since about the time of '9/11'. It's almost as though Osama bin Laden's curse has come true!

    We've 'hit the skids', for different reasons, under two Republican presidents ("W" Bush and Trump) and two Democrat presidents (Obama, and the poor, senile, demented idiot who's in there today). This ain't a 'political party' thing, Golem... nearly everything we've done for over twenty years has turned to SH!T, no matter who sits in the Oval Office.
     
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    Most likely a recount..?

    Lauren Boebert's slight lead could diminish if ballots tossed due to signature verification are fixed: report


    ttps://www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-2658644611/

    "While the race for Colorado's third congressional district remains tight, Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert's slight lead over Democratic candidate Adam Frisch could be in jeopardy if thousands of rejected votes in favor of Frisch are fixed, Newsweek reports.

    As Newsweek points out, Boebert is leading with 50.1 percent of the vote against Frisch's 49.8 percent. But if thousands of votes that were likely rejected over signature verification are fixed and deemed countable, Frisch could still oust the Republican who has voiced support for voter fraud conspiracy theories.

    "Every year in Colorado, thousands of ballots are reportedly rejected for issues related to signature verification, like a missing signature or a discrepancy in the signature. Local officials then alert voters of the issue, giving them a week time to fix the problem and make their vote count," Newsweek reports. "The process, which is done in 23 other states besides Colorado, is called 'ballot curing.'"


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    Lauren Boebert
    Republican Party
    50.2%
    162,040 votes
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    Adam Frisch
    Democratic Party
    49.8%
    160,918 votes

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  12. Izzy

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    I thought she had won..


    Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert
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    upload_2022-11-14_17-24-0.png Wall Street Journal
    In Lauren Boebert's Colorado District, Some Voters Grow Tired of Trump-Style Politics
    8 hours ago
    Link
    https://archive.ph/9VrTr


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    US House race between Lauren Boebert, Adam Frisch is still extremely tight
    2 hours ago
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    upload_2022-11-14_17-24-0.png The Colorado Sun
    Lauren Boebert: National GOP, Democratic groups deploy to Colorado for final vote count
    4 hours ago
     
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    Completely disagree. After 9-11 we actually became better until we invaded Iraq. Then we went on a slump, until Obama brought us out. And then Trump... well.... We are slowly recovering from the Trump era. But Tuesday's elections were a great morale booster for Democracy.

    But at no point did we stop being great. Though we came very close on January 6.

    Republicans like the narrative that this nation is not great so they don't look so bad when they mess everything up. The narrative is "government is bad", and then they obtain power and prove just how bad government can be. What they need to do is, instead of trying to sink the country to their level, is become BETTER and reach the nation's level when it's at its best.

    Start governing! How is it possible that, during this century, every time Republicans are in power they accomplish NOTHING! And when Democrats are, all they do is obstruct.
     
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    To summarize your point.

    During Democratic WH America was great. During the years Republicans had it America was not great.

    Reminds me of when Michelle Obama said when her husband was elected it was the first time she was proud of America.
     
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    Saying that radicals like QAnon formulate Trump's views is the silliest propaganda I've heard in awhile. QAnon are "fringe folks". No reasonable person pays much attention. But they do provide a great propaganda tool for left wingers to exploit. Left wingers pay a lot more attention to QAnon and give them a lot more publicity than anyone in the GOP.
     
  16. Izzy

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    Oh my,
    Bet she didn't see this coming.


    The Colorado Sun
    Lauren Boebert: National GOP, Democratic groups deploy to Colorado for final vote coun
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    "National Democratic and Republican groups have deployed to Colorado’s 3rd Congressional District to help find voters whose ballots need “curing” as control of the U.S. House could potentially hinge on the outcome of the race between Republican U.S. Rep. Lauren Boebert and Democrat Adam Frisch, a former Aspen city councilman.

    Boebert, who is seeking reelection to her second two-year term, was leading Frisch by about 1,100 votes, or less than 1 percentage point, on Monday morning. A smattering of votes will be counted through Friday and it’s unlikely the race will be called until the end of the week — at the earliest.

    The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the Democratic U.S. House campaign arm, has staff on the ground in Colorado, as does the Republican National Committee.

    The groups are trying to help the potentially thousands of voters in the 3rd District whose ballots were rejected because of signature discrepancies. The voters have until Wednesday to fix those errors, through a process known as curing."
     
  17. Izzy

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    That wishful thinking has been debunked over and over as QAnon lunacy has been used and continues to be used by many Republican politicians.
     
  18. Izzy

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    Here ya go,
    You're welcome.


    Trump openly embraces, amplifies QAnon conspiracy theories
    https://apnews.com › article › technology-donald-trump...


    Sep 16, 2022 — After winking at QAnon for years , Donald Trump is overtly embracing the baseless conspiracy theory , even as the number of frightening ...


    Tracking QAnon: how Trump turned conspiracy-theory ...
    https://www.nature.com › news


    Feb 4, 2021 — By taking fringe ideas mainstream, the former US president taught new and dangerous lessons about manipulating social and mass media.


    Trump begins openly embracing and amplifying false fringe ...
    https://www.pbs.org › newshour › politics › trump-begi...


    Sep 16, 2022 — Donald Trump is increasingly embracing and endorsing the QAnon conspiracy theory, even as the number of frightening real-world events linked ...


    Trump Seen Moving Closer to QAnon Conspiracy
    https://www.voanews.com › trump-seen-moving-closer-...


    Sep 20, 2022 — Former President Donald Trump speaks at a campaign rally in Youngstown, Ohio, Saturday, Sept. 17, 2022.
     
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    There is no rule that you have to be an elected member of congress.
    Trump would never consent as he'd have to pay attention and read.

    upload_2022-11-14_18-1-26.png The Hill
    Raskin suggests some far-right House members could vote Trump for Speaker
    1 day ago

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    Raskin: GOP majority could attempt to make Trump speaker of the House
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    Donald Trump, Speaker of the House? The GOP Is Considering It
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    Don't Party Just Yet: Jamie Raskin Raises Specter Of House Speaker Trump
     
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    The Dems have been perfectly happy with CR's (Continuing Resolutions) rather than actual budgets for some time. That's where we'll be for awhile longer.
     
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    Gestalt: America was never "great"
     
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    I say (and you even QUOTE!)
    You read ...
    Reading comprehension is also not a remarkable right wing attribute.
     
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    So we were great during the Republican terms. Trump thanks you for your support.
     
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    I say (and you even QUOTE!)
    You read...
    Reading comprehension not improving, buddy...

    However, it's funny how right wingers really really need to lower their expectations when they think that pointing out the lowest point in our history regarding "greatness" (i.e. January 6) is "support" for Trump.
     
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    Well, you can't have it both ways. Either Presidents contribute to America's greatness (as you implied with Democratic Presidents) or they don't (as you implied with Republican ones).
     
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