The Results of Liberal Welfare Policies

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  1. Lex Naturalis

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    The Results of Liberal Welfare Policies

    This is what Liberals mean when they tell you that they are the voice of the poor and disenfranchised. When they claim that conservatives want to take social programs away from those who truly need it, these are among the innocent victems of those unjust conservative policies. Ladies and gentlement, I present the culture of the Obama voter who's vote is going to ensure that his redistributive policies shall continue for years to come if they can help it. Here are the people of which the democrats hope to remain in a state of dependence to ensure a good voter turnout for future elections. Welfare is no longer a social stigma but something to be proud of in an Obama world.

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    lmao at that vid mostly. Where'd you get that?

    It's annoying as hell.

    Brilliant actually. All you have to do is F, and 9 months later you're getting the big bucks.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Obama hasn't increased the budget for welfare. The only thing he has increased is unemployment benefits for people who lost their jobs after Wall Street brought this country to it's knees.

    Nice try though! I guess I should show some picture of a neo-Nazi and equate him to all conservatives.
     
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    Obama bailed out everyone who was hurtin, the rich and the poor, step right up to the indestructible state coffer.
     
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    When you take in to account that entitlements make up over 65% of the budget thats a HUGE number! Of course the video is from the most liberal state in the Union. California.

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    arguing against facts not claimed in evidence are we?
     
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    And current events finally pays off....

    The reason for that is simple, social security, a big spender is the govt's mandatory spending.
     
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    No he didn't. Between 2010 and 2011 he increased Govt expenditures by the lowest amount in the past 4 decades. Increasing spending 1.3%.

    In his first 3 years he has increased spending by 8.7%.

    In Bush's first 3 years he increased spending by 14.7%.

    In Reagan's first 3 years he increased spending by 21.1%.

    Please learn the facts before you spread so many lies.
     
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    And this changes the fact that non Social Security and non Medicare entitlements make up over 20% of our budget how?
     
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    What's a liberal to do? Hello? where's dem liberals...Ain't this video some kinda 'black on black' racism? C'mon guys...let's hear some outrage..black folk gittin down on,,,,black folk. Whoda thought?...
     
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    Oh, that's right. We are considering spending that does not include the 16+++++ trillion tossed about by the federal reserve. The media focused on the 700 billion TARP instead. Good mind games.
     
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    I guess it depends on how you look at it huh?
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    I'm sorry, apparently medicad and medicare are part of mandatory spending. My bad.

    Mandatory spending includes federal government spending on
    entitlement programs as well as other budget outlays controlled by laws other than appropriation
    acts. Entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare make up the bulk of mandatory
    spending. Other mandatory spending programs include Temporary Assistance for Needy Families
    (TANF), Supplemental Security Income (SSI), unemployment insurance, some veteransÂ’ benefits,
    federal employee retirement and disability, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP),
    and the earned income tax credit (EITC). Discretionary spending is provided and controlled
    through appropriations acts.

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL33074.pdf
     
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    The Fed didn't spend $16 trillion. Please try to understand these things before you spout off nonsense.
     
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    All of which mentioned in the video I posted that you obviously didnt watch. Come one man. I make it easy for you so you dont need to read anything and your still goofing your own arguement up. Who are you arguing with here?
     
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    LOL! That doesn't mean he is spending more on welfare. When you have incredibly high deficits because of a recession all those Govt % to GDP #s are going to increase.

    Nice try though!
     
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    Please review how percentages work before you try to mislead others with them.

    When Bush and Reagan were President the "base" was a smaller number, which will skew the percentages.

    But I'm pretty sure you knew that already.
     
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    What makes you think that the chart was posted to prove an increase in welfare spending? Oh, you took it upon yourself to create a straw arguement as opposed to accepting the obvious refutation to your numbers game? I was just showing you yet another way we can look at the numbers, effectivly bringing context to your percentages game.
    Oh, and I love how you do these self comforting gestures like "LOL" and "Nice Try." It shows how insecure you are in your ability to argue.
     
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    Because you posted Wikipedia first.
     
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    Who cares. What does the base have to do with anything? There is more money and things cost more than they did in 1980. You can't expect to compare 1980 nominal spending to 2012 nominal spending. Just shows pure ignorance on your part.
     
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    Because your claim is that these are Obama's policies. Obama hasn't even changed the budget because he can't. The only policy that Obama has enacted was a stimulus bill and an increase in unemployment benefits.

    So in reality, your statement that these are liberal policies done by Obama is 100% inaccurate. These are the same policies Bush was using and the same amount of welfare spending based on those policies. Obama hasn't changed any of that.
     
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    He has this correct. The past few presidents have all been progressives owned by the banking elite, who also provided his education on how to screw the commoners.

    Give me a job at the red brick building, AKDelta. I don't believe that usury is necessary, but I know that many benefit from the scheme.
     
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    First of all, that guy is a moron, who no one with a functioning brain should ever listen to.

    With that out of the way, it is idiotic to talk about the deficit and entitlement programs, without being incredibly careful. While entitlements make up a large amount of spending, meaning 2 entitlements, only 1 of those entitlements contributes significantly to the deficit. The source of the deficit, is medicare/medicaid, the Bush tax cuts, the recession, and the Military. SS is enormous yes, but it is funded by it's own tax, and last year accounted for 39 billion dollars of the 1.4 trillion dollar budget. That is so insignificant that it doesn't matter. SS has long term budgetary problems, but our current budget problem is completely unrelated to it. So whenever I hear anyone talk about the deficit, and bring this subject up, I know they are either ignorant of reality or liars. There is no other alternative.
     
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    Business owners benefit more from welfare and Govt spending than anyone else. They are the ones that end up with this money, lol.
     

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