The state is now buying guns for Teachers

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Lols! Just as “some on the right” dismiss school shootings just in case someone somewhere suggest that commonsense gun legislation be enacted
     
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    nothing you have ever suggested is common sense when it comes to making OUR country safer.
     
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    Really - what have I suggested?
     
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    does it say that or are you under the impression that this will happen?
     
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    I don't care because you don't have to live with the suggestions you have made. WE have seen dozens of your posts demanding harassment of lawful gun owners.
     
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    Probably already budgeted.
     
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    Lols! Thanks for making my point that what YOU believe I post and what I actually post are two different things lols!
     
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    Almost a year now since permitless carry passed in Florida. Still waiting on the surge shootings that liberals assured us would happen.

    Much hand ringing and weeping and gnashing of teeth over nothing.

    Heaven forbid some teachers take the initiative and be able to stop an active shooter
     
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    What do you mean requiring any training? A firearm is simple learn how to load it and learn how to unload it learn how to fire it that takes about 3 minutes did you have to be trained on how to use a light switch or a towel?

    Anytime someone says training it's because they don't know **** about the subject.


    And yeah being able to stop an active shooter that's smart. Especially since whenever they see a maniac with a gun that you trip over themselves to let them into the school.

    And if a teacher wanted to just go nuts and kill kids they could do that anyway Nothing stops them from bringing a gun to school anyway. How do you think all of the school shootings happen?

    I think you're freaking out because you're just ignorant on the topic people having guns stops other people from shooting people. You don't even have to fire a shot do we need to go over the list of how many mass shootings a credit gun shows or gun shops or shooting ranges compared to schools?
     
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    I noted, when I testified in front of Ohio legislators, that we constantly saw the victim disarmament movement make dire predictions as more and more states allowed shall issue permits (and later constitutional carry). At first, you could dismiss the fact that their doom and gloom claims failed as a prediction being wrong. But as more and more states allowed citizens to carry, the anti rights crowd continued to spew the same predictions and by then they were clearly lying since the available facts continued to crush their predictions.
     
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    Gun legislation does **** all. If it did there wouldn't be shootings. It's already legislated that you can't go into a school and murder a bunch of kids the idiotic government let's it happen any way. What makes you think they'll all the sudden get off their ass and do something about it if you aren't able to defend yourself?

    These idiots cause this problem they can't solve it. They couldn't pour urine out of a boot if the instructions were printed on the heel.

    Why is your solution to every problem just more failure?
     
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    Give kids porno and let people murder them that's Democrats for you.
     
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    What exactly is the problem here? Guns are very simple tools. We have 728 accidental shootings per year. We have 36,000 accidental sawings per year. Guns are demonstrably easier to operate than saws. You wouldn't say teachers are incapable of safely using a saw, would you?

    ...are you afraid that the people we entrust with the instruction of OUR CHILDREN arent capable of using a simple tool properly?
     
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    Sheer insanity. Simple minded people with very simple minded , expedient, and insane ideas. For complicated and dangerous issues. All the students need is to see more gun violence......as if they are not hardened to it already. Shameful that anyone in any leadership position would go for this nonsense. Just more American gun insnaity. As if there are not enough problems with guns related incidents.
     
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    Then you really don't understand Democrats.
     
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    With all those accidents and mass shootings , why add mor e guns into the mix?? Can't they hire TRAINED SECURITY STAFF to do that job and let the teachers do the teaching. How can a teacher focus on teaching if he/she has to be the security system as well. Someone is not thinking clearly. Some think that guns are the answer to gun problems. That makes NO rational sense at all.

    ( oh , adding security duties to teaching duties and still not paying them enough?? . a presctiption for resentment , distraction and lower quality of education.) Way to go. The education system is no al that great as it is.
     
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    Hiring armed, trained security would be great. More than half of US high schools had armed security in 2000. NY state still funds the provision of armed security at schools.

    Ask your conservative friends and your progressive friends whether they support funding full-time armed security at schools as opposed to giving teachers a raise or buying more art supplies, and you'll prolly find out why schools are seeking to arm teachers instead of hiring more staff to provide it.
     
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    Well anytime there's a mass shooting it's Democrats that say we need have more gun control.

    Not that we need to defend our schools not questioning how someone just waltzes in with a rifle and blows a bunch of kids away.

    It's not my fault that these people talk about everything but the problem.

    No I don't understand them they think doing more of the same will change things I don't know why.
     
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    It is not that simple. "giving teachers guns". That is expecting them to play two full time roles simultaneously. How can they focus on TEACHING , when that is a challenge to be gin with?? why not focus on better mental health services for peple who want to shoot other people or school kids for mentally disturbed reasons? This is where the teacher CAN and should play a big role. Help identify problem children......... ( anger issues, anxiety issues, depression, acting out behavior. ) and help arrange for them to be assessed.
    Now as far as the community is concerned, people should and usually are aware when there i s a problem . Sadly they go into denial or make excuses to avoid seeking help. Better education in the public health services and psychological field is needed. People need to know what to look for as far a behavior issues go. And assist their family member into getting seen by a mental health worker.
    The idea is PREVENTION....... as much as possible. (not dealing with the tragedies of gun violence AFTER they happen, with over reactive and emotional decisions. There has been too much of that.
    Thoughts and prayers don't work worth a dam.
     
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    In the 1940s, many schools bought rifles for students. It wasn't unusual then.
     
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    Self defense is not another full time roll. When I carry a gun, I am 99% living my regular life and 1% carrying a gun while I do it. I've carried at work before, it did not hinder my productivity by any percievable amount. Do you suppose that teachers continue reading the history lesson after they hear a loud bang or yelling in the hallway? No, they lock the door and wait. They can do that just as well while carrying a gun (or having a gun in a biometric safe in the desk drawer, which is how its usually done).

    Have you ever shot a gun? Have you ever tried to diagnose and treat a mental illness? Really now, which do you think is better suited to a professional degree and which can be accomplished with 1-day safety course?

    You think teachers can't teach while having a gun nearby, but they can teach just fine while also addressing mental illnesses? C'mon...
     
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