The State of Florida has executed a child murderer/rapist and the left is outraged

@HockeyDad

Well I'm pissed also... Lethal injection is sissy's way out..

Duane Owen should have been raped, stabbed, and beating with a hammer as the mode of death... They will never realize the magnitude and the pain and horror their victims went through unless they themselves suffer that pain and horror in the same manner...
and if he wanted his junk cut off, I am sure the boys down at the prison would have done it at no charge...

 

I'll state my opinion on the death penalty again:

There should be two types of guilty verdicts when it comes to the DP; beyond a reasonable doubt and there's no doubt at all.

When a murderer is convicted beyond a reasonable doubt then the standard process takes place. When there is no doubt, i.e. the murderer is caught on video, his face is clearly shown along with tattoos and other marking unique to him, the the DP takes place tomorrow. As for the people who say the various methods of execution might cause undo suffering, then I'm recommending fentanyl - it seems to be a pretty popular way to go these days

 

One has to be a bit demented to rape and murder a child in the first place but that isn't sufficient excuse to not put down such mad dogs.

 

So you are blaming Florida, a conservative state, on being too solf on crime?

Again, there is that 8th amendment in which "cruel and unusual punishment" is forbidden. What you propose meets that definition and stops being justice and starts being revenge.

 

If you read the history, DeSantis stayed the execution, convened a panel of expert psychologists, to determine whether the offender is mentally incompetent at the time of trial. that panel concluded he was, and thus was executed. However, that is also the case with the appeals that he had since 1986. And thus, through our legal appellate system, it was finally determined at both federal and state level that he was competent to stand trial, was found guilty, was sentenced to death, and eventually executed. And that is why it took longer than 12 years.

 

Everyone who is convicted of murder and either the judge or jury sentences that person to death for their crimes, the defendant is automatically granted appeal per the Supreme Court. The rest of what you said about "no doubt" is not even a legal standard.

 

When the 8A was written the intent was to do away with such punishments a getting drawn and quartered, burned at the stake, or buried up to your head and letting the ants eat you alive. I'm sure you've seen today's arguments at what's cruel and unusual with lawyers saying the condemned "might' feel pain.

 

I know, but if I were king....

 

I think that they are generally against the death penalty, not just in this particular case.

There are many issues with the death penalty, and that's not excusing that some criminals have done horrendous deeds that would deserve the death penalty:
1) The risk of executing an innocent person (not negligible).
2) It doesn't really deter people from committing crimes that warrant the death penalty.
3) It's mostly more expensive than jailing the perpetrator for life.
4) For me, the most important one is that it requires somebody to pull the trigger, i.e. kill a person in the name of the state. For those who are for the death penalty, they have to think about this: Would THEY be willing to pull the trigger? It's easy to have someone else do the dirty work for their political convictions. I know that I couldn't pull the trigger, even if I knew that the person on death row is guilty of the most heinous crimes. That's the reason why, in the past, they had firing squads, so each person could make themselves believe that it was someone else's bullet that killed the perpetrator.

Food for thought. Of course, I realize that in black and white simplistic RW thinking, these nuances are not taken into account, and it is easy to scream: Just execute the MF and celebrate.

 

That it took "the right" thirty years to execute this person is not something to be proud about. They might as well have sentenced him to life as long as they deferred justice.

 

I don't think it should be used regularly, but some people are clearly good candidates for it. The Christchurch shooter for instance - he livestreamed the thing showing his face regularly, he was captured by police with the firearms, there were dozens of witnesses, he doesn't deny it - I'm sure most people would be okay with a little extra cost to execute that guy. Let one of the victims push the button. If they don't want to I'm sure some of the sports shooters who had their guns taken away as a result would happily push the button instead.

I mean, it's easy to be wrong, but this guy is one of the most obviously and conclusively guilty people in the history of crime. If anyone has it coming it's him.

 

Torture is for the torturer. What's wrong with a 12ga slug to the back of the head?

 

Who is "the left" that festers in your noggin?

 

I agree with you here. And on the same grounds.

 

the pro-death right is saying the left is outraged? I have heard no one outraged over him not getting a sex change paid for by the State, seems made up to me

 

exactly, sometimes the inmates have no victims, sometimes they are the victims...

http://www.forejustice.org/wc/ray_krone_JD_vol2_i9.htm

 

And the likelihood that you'll discover he's not the culprit after ten to fifteen years approaches nil.

 

Which is not the same as zero.

 

Well actually nil is zero.

 

But you said approaches nil, which is not the same as nil.

 

There's a good reason why it seems that way.

 

"8th amendment in which "cruel and unusual punishment" is forbidden" Tell that to the little girl and the lady that was murdered after being hammered and strangled.
They probably did not get that memo..

 

Careful.. Progressives are all "minor attracted".. these days, it's all pretty perverted when you actually look at what progressive folks want. They want to groom and violate your kids. It's sick..

 

projection from the right it seems

 

Sticking your head in the sand isn't going to help....