The States will decide when to reopen, not Trump

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...S&utm_campaign=nprblogscoronavirusliveupdates

All West Coast states and many Northeast/Midatlantic states have joined forces to decide how and when to reopen their economies as Covid-19 slowly goes away.

They have made it plainly clear that THEY will decide when and how to reopen, not Trump.

Trump thinks he is in charge, but he has no authority in this one.

The governors of New York and California — two of the largest economies in the U.S. — have formed alliances with their respective neighbors to coordinate an eventual easing of COVID-19 shutdowns, posing a potential new obstacle to President Trump's plans to restart the national economy.

The governors in the Eastern coalition say they're forming a council that will judge potential steps toward restoring business as usual, with each state contributing three people to the group: one public health expert, one economics expert and the governor.

 

Oh no, he has "Total authority". Trump said so.

 

All he has to do is revoke his national emergency order. Once he does that, the governor's lose their authority(constitutionally). Now, they would probably challenge his revoking it.(And/or, it would possibly lead to impeachment #2). But frankly, these governors acted out of bounds of the constitution anyway.

 

How does him revoking a national emergency order give him power and take it away from the states?

 

the economy was shut down when all of the governors issued executive orders to shut down non-essential businesses and organizations and require social distancing. And only the governors can reverse these orders.

I guess Trump can sue the governors in court, but he has no power or authority on his own to reverse the governors executive orders.

We are a federal system and states have a lot of autonomy.

 

He's wrong on this.

 

"No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."

http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/us-congress-legislative-branch/9647-red-blue-state-health-care.html

They might also want a State Compact for health care too in their regions, instead of complaining about everybody else (Red States) that don't want it.

 

Someone has already pointed out to him that if he has total authority he also has total responsibility.

He doesn’t accept personal responsibility for anything. Credit yes, responsibility no.

So he will walk this back, qualify it, say the media took it out of context and his followers will parrot whatever he says. They just haven’t received their marching orders yet so they don’t know how to defend him.

 

Trump could declare martial law, just like any governor can declare martial law in their own state.

Trump isn't going to do that. He only said he "could". He is correct.

It would be a Twilight Zone moment if the president imposed an martial law "emergency" to force states to reopen their economies if they want to keep businesses shuttered. Everyone wants to reopen as soon as it's safe.

The Trump hub-bub of the day is sort of funny.

 

I don't care.

He is wrong. The President is NOT given total authority. That's an abomination to our liberties.

Also his attitude is extremely dangerous. Especially when he due hard base (see below) goes along with that nonsense. That attitude gets you things like:

Mandatory vaccinations!
Martial Law???

Martial law????

Thanks for validating my point.

 

lol Relax. It's not going to happen.

Regardless what Trump said yesterday, that he "could", he is the best president we've had in a long time in respecting the rights of the state governors to make decisions for their own states' citizens.

It's the left which would prefer to have an all-powerful authoritarian federal government which would force all the individual states to comply with centralized federal rule.

 

Trump's authoritarian instincts are coming up again

 

If Trump has no control over the states, why were all you lefties losing your **** over him not declaring a national stay at home order?

 

Please show us where in the Constitution the president has the power to reverse a governor's executive order

 

Haha. They're spitting in the wind.

 

Its sad to see Trump go full-dictator, but good to know the Governors will tell him to **** off

 

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/public-health-chart.aspx

 

No Democrat or Republican President has ever claimed total authority! Until now!

 

The power is in The People's hands on this one.

When the collective experienced pain and loss caused by forced lock-down reaches the point where the majority of The People come to believe that the real injury caused by lock-down is out of proportion to the injury it was intended to contain The People will act to end it.

The People will end it by breaking quarantine when that moment comes.

 

Trump can say "the Governors' executive orders are now null & void", and the Governors can tell Trump to go **** off.

 

If that would make Trump a dictator, then you're saying governors are dictators of their states.

 

It won't come to that. Some of the last people to stop encouraging crowds of people to attend events and go shopping and out to eat (because it's good for the economy) were Democrat urban mayors and state governors, and even leader of the House, Pelosi. They're in just as much of a hurry to reopen their economies as everyone else is.

 

If the executive order is an agreement or compact with another state, in violation of Article 1 Section 10, and if Congress has given the president powers under the Commerce Clause, Trump doesn't have to reverse, the governor's executive order is simply worthless.

Did you vote for George Wallace?

 

They essential are. Governors have a lot more power over residents of their states than the president does (short of martial law).

 

no, Governors have the legal authority to shut down non-essential businesses and then reopen them, due to a health crisis.

President has no such authority, especially to overturn a legal executive order by a Governor.