The Surprising Geography of Gun Violence

How do Dems make poverty?

 

The guideline is.... drum roll....

"reasonable suspicion"

 

The same way republicans do. They are just better at it!

 

Cities have ordinances. They don't make laws.
Cities don't provide education. States do.
Cities collect city taxes to fund city functions.
States collect taxes to improve the State's ability to educate, provide training, bring in jobs, etc.

But in true MAGA fashion, you did do a great job of passing the responsibility to where it doesn't belong.

 

States have laws. City police departments enforce those laws. Democrats do a piss poor job.

 

You mean democrat ran cities are safe now? Great, I can finally buy that summer home in Chicago......

 

Can you afford it?

Because the average house in Chicago costs $390K....

 

Which has nothing at all to do with the States poor education levels and job opportunities.

You want to blame a city for the fault of the State. Republican controlled state by white people. Can't educate and get job opportunities for their residents.

That's why republicans can't govern or get anything done?
They are always blaming someone or something else?

 

Sorry. But local governance has FAR more an impact than state or federal influence.

Violence is higher when the local leadership
Is Democrat. It’s why you have red states with blue pockets of violence.

 

Nope, most education in States come from the State level. Taxed at local level and some money provided.
Or do red States not fund education? Is that the problem in Red States. They don't push for a good education?

Jobs are a product of State laws and regulations. For new jobs to take up residence there.
Are those red States providing good business practices so those cities can get jobs? And are they providing training to the workforce?

If there are pockets of violence, it's a failure of the state to support those cities with good education and jobs.

 

that's interesting-I vote for my city's school board =I don't recall ever voting for a state school board

 

I did say earlier, it probably depends on the State.
And now I see that is true.

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Governance and Authority
State boards of education are different in every state and have diverse policy authority. Some are created by the state constitution and others by statute. Some of their members are elected; some are appointed. In many states, it is the state board who selects the state education chief. In others, it is the governor. In 45 states, the state board adopts learning standards that all students are expected to achieve. In 31 states, state boards have primary authority over state summative assessments. In addition, most SBEs have the following authority:

• establishing high school graduation requirements;
• determining qualifications for professional education personnel;
• establishing state accountability and assessment programs; and
• establishing standards for accreditation of local school districts and preparation programs for teachers and administrators.
  About State Boards of Education – NASBE – National Association of State Boards of Education

 

I live in a wealthy city. Our school-biggest in Ohio, gets very good reviews. My wife grew up in two cities-both very wealthy=both public school systems ranked in the top 100 in the USA. Cincinnati's magnet school is highly rated, others-mainly in lower class areas-not so much/ I have a bunch of first generation Chinese or Indian kids in an athletic program I run. They invariably choose to live in the cities with the top schools in SW Ohio.

 

That is a downfall, IMO, of how primary education gets funded in the USA.
Wealthy areas get very good schools. Poverty areas have very bad schools.

IMO, very bad schools only passes along very bad education. Leading to generational poverty.

States, if they want to improve the overall education of all it's students, can adopt a program where States will pick up a larger portion of funding to those districts in poverty areas.
Or, they can just complain about their large cities having too much crime.

 

its a complex problem. People work hard to be able to move to better school districts. those who care don't want their kids in thug schools

 

If you look deeper at gun violence it’s actually not surprising at all. It’s actually being led by democrats cities, not Republican states. The rural areas in these states contribute far less than the democrat controlled cities.

 

Hard to have great schools in slummy areas because the kids generally destroy them because the parents are raising hoodlems. Exceptions exist but they are exceptions. Also it’s hard to get teachers to put their lives at risk working at a school where the student body will beat you down if you “disrespect” them.

Nice schools in those areas are also far costlier to maintain. Throwing money at the problem when the problem is the PARENTS. And Democrats won’t acknowledge the problem. Just yell systemic racism over and over.

And why should MY money be spent someplace that isn’t benefiting my family? That’s why you move to a nice city so you have nice things with nicer people, nicer homes, less crime, etc.

Care to guess why stores are closing down in communities that are robbing and destroying them? Same exact thing.

 

You're just making up that the dem's won't acknowledge the problem. They do, and want social programs to force an end to it. You GOP acknowledge the problem, and find your solution in militarizing the police and arming teachers. But that's not solving jack all for kids in schools. While systemic racism is an issue, since it exists. Something the GOP denies.


Your idea that nice schools in crap area's are costlier maintains, hints that you believe crap area's must get crap schools. While crap schools produce crap students, who end up having crap jobs. And people who got crap jobs, can't support their schools. Because that is what happens in nice area's. Schools are sponsored all over there.

In the end, social mobility in the US is a joke. The American dream is totally out of reach for the bulk of the population. A massive load of people can literally work all day and still be eligible for food stamps like your random gimp in a crap hole nation with UN aid.

Your idea that stores are closing down, is due to robberies as if there is no police. The reality is far more that area's are filled with people with no dime to spare. Such a poor economic situation is not a healthy environment for a child. It already suffers due to poor housing, poor nutrition due to lack of funds, and no extra tutorring. It all adds up and hence they preform badly in schools.

The entire idea of a host days wages for a honest days work, is gone. It was even gone before the massive inflation hit and it only has gotten worse. The GOP or the Dems aint putting a dent into it. It is what it is.

 

I agree with this. As I noted, I coach a program that for one reason or another, attracts high achieving students. My three captains-all junior girls-go to the same fairly affluent HS. All have over 4.0-all are white. the parents include a divorced couple who use their daughter as a pawn sometimes but push her to do well, another couple don't have any college education but are determined their daughter will, and the last pair both have masters in engineering. All are extremely invested in their daughters' achieving though. many of my younger kids are first generation. three are Indian, one is Chinese (her father was at VA Tech during the massacre-he was one classroom away) one is Japanese, one boy is the son of a Filipino man and white mother, and one's mother was a "boat person" and her father is Chinese/Malaysian. All of these kids are extremely high achieving students. One of my graduates is the son of a black man and a white woman. Neither have college degrees but are successful in their trades-he also was NHS and is apprenticed into his father's trade (steel worker). What do these kids have in common-their parents make sure they attend school and keep up with their studies. I know, I have written over a dozen college recommendations for these kids and even more for NHS or scholarships. Most live in areas that have good public schools, the Filipino boy goes to the Cincinnati Magnet school and is in the top 15 of his class (Cum Laude society-usually the private school version of NHS).

 

These excuses are so pathetic. The culture of areas you are describing are that of the streets not school. They idolize fights, drugs, easy sex, and gangs. There is nothing about school that interests them. Democrats allow this to happen while making excuses for it. They avoid doing what it takes to help those who actually do care to go to better schools. They totally are against a school voucher program that would allow the good ones to go to better schools rather than being locked into a school full of disruptive morons. Democrats are the problem here, not republicans

 

By taxing people into it.

 

I was going to say importing it. I think that has a bigger influence than tax rates.

 

And don’t get me wrong. There are parents or a parent raising kids in terrible areas who still care and push their kids. But that’s NOT the rule. That’s the exception.

 

true-I don't have any impoverished kids. but I see lots of kids with the same middle class to upper middle class backgrounds as these kids with crappy grades. and the ,aim difference I see is the parents' investment in their kids doing well though there are other reasons. For example, one of the girls I coach is a twin-she's a super high achiever academically. Athletically she's physically say top quarter but her mental game is weak. Now her twin brother is far more gifted in both fields-and just as smart but he's a crappy student and a sloth like athlete in terms of practice but his talent wins him more events than his sister does. same environment-one's over a 4.0, the other is a B- student at the county vocational school

 

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