The Texas shooting shows the futility of arming teachers

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  1. Cybred

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    Did armed and trained professionals stop the gunman? Yes or no?
     
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    Irrelevant to the OP. The OP makes the case that armed teachers did not stop this shooting and as such the idea itself is shown to be false. If no teachers were armed then the premise of the OP is false.
     
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    Yes in fact they did. Border patrol agents in fact.

    And I have already answered your question in the affirmative so stop pretending you did not get an answer.

    Would you like me to tag you in the thread as well where the person posted the eyewitness account or the local police were standing around not going in and they were being urged to go in and yet they sat there and basically put their thumbs up their butt?
     
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    Did armed and trained professionals stop the gunman? Yes or no?
     
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    Wasn't talking to you.
     
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    we will never know how many teachers were armed - this is Texas after all

    many Churches are now arming themselves, School will most likely be next... thoughts and prayers do not work
     
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    Oh well, I'm talking to you.

    You're sitting here dishonestly pretending like your question has not already been answered several times. Border patrol agents went in and killed the shooter... With guns

    The entire premise of this thread is garbage because the eyewitnesses at the event were urging the police to go into the school while the shooting was occurring and they were not entering the school.

    Of course if you don't confront the shooter it doesn't matter if you have a gun or not
     
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    He shot two police officers
     
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    "eyewitnesses at the event were urging the police to go into the school while the shooting was occurring and they were not entering the school."

    that is sad if true
     
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    And yet this case got hardly a mention - an unarmed man died trying to disarm the shooter but that distracted him enough that the pastor and congregation was able to hit him with a chair and hog tie him

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-05-16/laguna-woods-church-shooting-hero-doctor

    I wonder how many more stories of UNARMED people taking down mass shooters there are - but then the NRA does not pay the news corporation’s to publish THOSE stories.
     
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    Two police officers who were first on the scene were shot
     
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    Would teachers have been MORE effective or LESS effective than the police?
    https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101418947/onlookers-urged-police-to-charge-into-texas-school
     
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    Yes like the Las Vegas shooter was “stopped by a person with a gun” mind you that was himself but still he was shot by a person with a gun!
     
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    I have to agree with Jim Jeffries - people who suggest this obviously have forgotten what school was like! We had a teacher - back in the day when they were allowed to - who was deadly accurate with a piece of chalk. Top of the ear every single time - and he was considered one of the milder mannered teachers!
     
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    that is sad too
     
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    I know what I'd want if I was going after a mass shooter.... I would want a chair instead of a gun....:rolleyes: :alcoholic:
     
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    Care to provide further information on that?
     
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    I did
     
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    Where?
     
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    You use what is at hand.

    Americans have been taught to believe that they are defenceless without a gun - I am sure that is why so many die
     
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    Post 39
     
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    So they were outside the building and his rampage was allowed to continue on as police assembled outside and did nothing.

    The very same sort of inaction that allowed Nicholas Cruz's body count to go so high
     
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    They were shot, you know, that is when a bullet hits them? He also had body armour
     
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