The Trump administration is privately estimating the daily coronavirus death rate will double

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    From the CONTENT of your recent posts it is readily apparent that you do NOT understand the stark DIFFERENCE between the Flu and Covid19. Neither do you appear to be able to grasp the concept of EXERCISE! You have no idea at all about how ESTIMATES are made. You also have difficulty comprehending the difference between a fatal DISEASE and a fatal ACCIDENT.

    However there does appear to be a DISTINCT PATTERN in the CONTENT of your recent posts that does EXPLAIN why you are a supporter of the Covidiot-in-Chief.

    Sad!
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understand you don't know what exercise is.

    I also understand that 337 > 191.

    If you need help with either let me know.
     
  3. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for confirming that the findings of the pattern in the content of your posts.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Basic facts you're having a hard time to dispute.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no its you that doesn't understand how dangerous it is for the CDC to constantly over estimate the impact of the pandemic

    let me put it in perspective
    lets say a meteorologist predicts a cat 5 hurricane is going to hit and every one needs to evacuate so every one does and all that happens is some heavy showers
    then next month the meteorologist predicts the same and people evacuate and once again all that happens is heavy showers
    how many times can meteorologist predictions be wrong causing people to stop listening stop evacuating and when the next prediction happens to be accurate and the population had stopped listening stopped evacuating because of the history of inaccurate prediction and are caught in a cat 5 hurricane

    thats why it is so dangerous to over predict and why it is crucial to be accurate
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your analogy is poor.

    The hurricane was predicted and the estimate would a 500,000 deaths.

    Because of the warnings, people evacuate, or batten down the hatches and stock up food and water and prepare to some extent, so deaths actually are 80,000 instead of 500,000.

    But right now, EVERY informed authority meteorologist indicates the weather system that just killed 80,000 instead of 500,000 with warnings and hasty preparations now is very likely bring a even larger wave of bad weather that may kill a larger death toll.

    Apparently, the Trump and the Trumpies say that deaths are only causing the older and infirm to die, so its ok to open up the businesses and get outside and party because there were only 20% of the possible deaths were affected instead of 5 times more. Because we can't afford to be careful anymore!

    Yeah, that makes sense! NOT!
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your missing the point when you cry wolf to many times people stop listening stop believing
    didnt your mother or father every read you that story the boy that cried wolf
    is crucial to be accurate because when you are wrong to many times as the CDC has been people stop listening stop believing
     
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  8. Derideo_Te

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    :roflol:

    Get back to us when you are eventually able to grasp the basic facts.
     
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    :roflol:

    Another asinine apples to orangutans comparison!
     
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    Like 337 flu and pneumonia deaths being more than 191 covid deaths that induce screechy panic?
     
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    Thank you for confirming that you still haven't managed to gain any grasp of the basic facts.

    You can't even get the 2016 EC facts right!

    SAD!

    :roflol:
     
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    The horse is out of the barn, we can only manage this virus. Shutting down waiting for a vaccine that may never come isn't an option.
     
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    He cares about Americans suffering from unneeded complete shutdowns, your party doesn't.
     
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    That's not the goal. It's to shutdown until we have seen a steady two week drop in daily case counts while also ramping up testing to the point where we can be confident that we have an accurate picture of the true infection rate as well as the ability to track and mitigate new hotspots as they develop instead of two weeks after the fact.
     
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    Our party cares about the Americans dying from reckless policies solely aimed at bolstering trump's election chances.
     
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    The original shutdown excuse was so hospitals won't be overwhelmed, they aren't, many are laying off staff. Caution, moving goalposts.
     
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    Your party is promoting reckless policies solely aimed at hindering Trump's election chances. Reminds me of the now exposed Mueller hoax and shampeachment.
     
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    You ever play that game where you try to estimate the number of objects in a large container? It can be difficult.. and there IS no change in the number of objects in that case..
     
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    How something as elemental as that has become political is just mind boggling
     
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    Dealing with a worldwide pandemic is NOT "trying to hinder Trump's election chances". Only YOU people think like that.

    We're just trying to stay alive
     
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    Which is fine, I support fully reopening the economy and shutting down areas that are hard hit as they need to be. The death wave will be sad but so many are begging for it.

    Let it be.
     
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    Just protect yourself, none of these people you are replying to care who or how many die.
     
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    They don't seem to care if they or their families and friends live or die either
     
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    It is a matter of “this will not happen to me” — the entire party platform is based on self, not others — so I am not really surprised they do not care as long as they don’t think it will happen to them.
     
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    There were several goals of the original shutdown. And it is a misnomer to use the fact that we achieved one of those goals a reason to argue that the shutdown should have never happened or that it should end right now.
     
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