The Truth about Chris Christie by (another) Jersey Guy

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    If there were many other problems with this guy, believe me you would have heard them by now. The only thing that made Bridgegate huge was Clinton. Without the polls showing Christie beating Hillary this story would have been gone in a week.
     
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    I have head about his other problems, his abrasive style for instance, that's a serious problem for a politician on the national stage.
    The only thing that made bridgegate huge was that it was such a petty act, to restrict traffic to punish a mayor for not endorsing Christie.
    And everyone understands that, they also understand that there is going to be a whitewash which we've just seen, and they also understand that this is a guy who isn't very likable. And here's a guy who isn't a very good decision maker, because everyone knows he ordered this, and everyone knows it was done in a way to maintain plausible deniability. He's already lying about what he knew, or rather other people remember telling him stuff that he claims he didn't know.

    The fat man is toast, find another chump, this one won't make it out of the GOP primary.....
     
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    Personally I doubt he would have beaten Bush, even without the Bridge thing. The south is not [and never was] fertile ground for him. I just dislike the way he was treated, that's all.
     
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    I know they should treat him with the same deference that Obama receives.....from FOX News and Breitbart....
     
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    He's not the President, he's a guy handling New Jersey....
     
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    Seriously, that's your answer.....
     
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    Do you really expect a Governor of New Jersey to get the same press as the President? Nobody would....

    He got it due to Clinton....and that's the point. This was never about a Bridge....
     
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    He was the front running candidate for a presidential nomination, so he gets press, and the press reports what they see.
    If he hadn't ordered that bridge shut down, he would still be getting press, it would be on something different.
     
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    SAYREVILLE, N.J. — Before Governor Chris Christie began his town hall late Thursday in this working class community hard hit by Sandy, something else happened first.

    Two representatives from the Working Families Alliance, a grass roots organization with labor backing, say they were ejected. Since “Bridgegate” broke nationally, the group has vowed to use Christie’s forums to raise questions about the scandal and the Christie Administration’s Sandy response. :steamed:

    http://www.salon.com/2014/04/04/chr...s_ejected_for_daring_to_question_bridge_flap/
     
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    Chris Christie and the Republicans have been desperately trying to wish the George Washington Bridge scandal away. However, despite their efforts to minimize the scandal and to deride their political opponents, the scandal is not going away. Today should serve as a reality check to Governor Christie, as ABC News reports that a U.S. Attorney in New Jersey has convened a grand jury to investigate the involvement of Governor Chris Christie’s office in the George Washington Bridge scandal. This signals that the investigation has moved from a mere inquiry into the criminal phase, meaning that criminal indictments could be forthcoming in the near future.

    The grand jury will have the authority to indict, subpoena, and interview witnesses as they probe the scope and the motives of the Chris Christie administration surrounding the politically motivated lane closures on the George Washington Bridge. The grand jury could indict Chris Christie or other government officials if they determine that crimes were committed.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2014/04...is-christie-face-feds-convene-grand-jury.html

    :woot::woot::woot:
     
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    Of the three, one would think that the jamoke that doesn't have that GOP's congressional stink on him (18% approval) would have an advantage.

    Whether Roman Catholic Ryan actually takes to heart his Pope's gospel message, he has a head start on creeping toward the centre, having been deprogrammed as a rabid randwank by Romney's people last time:


    Paul is already throwing fruitloopy libertarians at least half-way under the proverbial bus as he grovels before the the GOP's bible humper wingnuts:

    - and Perry still imagines that he's running to succeed Jefferson Davis:

    [video=youtube;6QDVs1tIVFA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QDVs1tIVFA&feature=player_embedded[/video]​



    After that "Romney Landslide!" proclaimed by the GOP's brain trust last time, it should be a hoot, indeed!



    (Hope for Huckabee vs Hickenlooper in '16!)
     
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    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is once again taking aim at a favorite target: his state's public workers. And he's once again taking money from them. In his first term as governor, Christie pushed for pension changes, with workers paying more of their wages into the pension fund, raising the retirement age, and other cuts. The workers were forced to make up a large part of a pension fund shortfall because the state had failed to contribute its share to the fund. But Christie was also supposed to make bigger payments to the pension fund. Now, of course, he's backing out of that commitment, taking money that was supposed to go to workers' pensions to plug a hole in his budget:


    http://www.dailykos.com/
     
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    The traffic jam scandal received ten times the press attention than any misstep committed by the Obama administration.
     
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    I know, it only proves the outlandish partisan of the media....
     
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    The federal investigations into Bridgegate and the alleged shakedown of Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer haven’t yet been released to the public, but Chris Christie’s own self-exonerating Potemkin inquiry has. So it would be understandable if one concluded the governor had made it through the worst challenge of his political career more or less unscathed. Christie certainly appears to believe this, having recently proclaimed that, if he runs for president in 2016, Bridgegate will by that point be seen as “footnote.” Indeed, he very much sounds like a man who still plans on running for president.
    But here’s the funny thing: After a series of post-Bridgegate failures, embarrassments and potential scandals (yes, there are more), Christie’s chances at winning the White House are worse than ever. Not only is he now associated with suspicions of petty corruption but, perhaps more importantly, his greatest accomplishments besides getting elected as a Republican, twice, in New Jersey — improving the state’s finances and reforming its public workers’ pension — are falling to pieces. Surveying the damage, Tom Moran, leader of the Star-Ledger’s editorial board (which endorsed Christie’s reelection in 2013), put it rather simply, saying Christie’s presidential hopes had been “finally snuffed out, once and for all.”
    Here’s a quick recap of the many bits of bad news for Christie that Moran believes constitute, in sum, a decisive blow:

    http://www.salon.com/2014/05/31/chr...is_big_accomplishments_have_fallen_to_pieces/

    If you take a step back and look at it all together — Bridgegate, Hoboken, the state’s economy, its budget, its pension, the awarding of contracts to political donors and the firing of Barlyn — two things jump out. One, the fact that we even still think of Christie as a real contender in 2016 is remarkable, bizarre and a testament to his political talent. Two, as skilled as he is at self-preservation and promotion, it’s also proof of the real lack of establishment-approved presidential candidates available to Republicans today. How else to explain the enthusiasm among the conservative members of the 1 percent for a presidential run by Jeb Bush, a man who has been out of office since 2007 and has the same last name as the GOP’s new Hoover, his brother, George W.? Only through comparison to the rapidly disintegrating Chris Christie could Bush 2016 look good
     
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    If Christie had won a number of primaries, if he was the presumptive nominee, having raised hundreds of millions, won nearly enough delegates to cinch the nomination, then the GOP would have had to rally around him, and stick with him.
    If you're going out with a girl for a couple of years and you're in love, and you find out she did something a while back, you can ignore it and move on with the relationship, because you are invested in the relationship.
    If you see a girl at a party, and someone tells you something you find unsavory, you might avoid her, having no investment in a relationship.

    It's easier not to join the Christie Campaign, not to write the first check, not to put your name on a list of volunteers, than it would have been to quit the campaign, to turn down a request after having contributed time and money to the campaign, after being invested in the campaign for some time.
    What wouldn't be that big of a deal in the final stages of the campaign can be a show stopper in the nascent stages.

    The Christie Campaign looks like it's not going to happen, because the big money is looking elsewhere and establishing relationships with other candidates.
     
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    Here's the real truth about Chris Christie. Because of his obvious charisma and outspoken style, he scares the left to death so they will go the extra mile in figuring out a way to destroy his character.
     
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    charisma and outspoken style? He's a thug and a bully!! He thinks he's Tony Soprano !! And he's incompetent as an administrator. The only thing that he's good at is politics and that's not good enough. The left does not have to destroy him. He did it himself. Get real!
     
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    See what I mean....
     
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    Are you paying attention?
    The left hasn't had to do anything to destroy Christie, he did it himself, he's already had to cut loose all his campaign people, and it's big Republican donors that are looking for alternatives to Christie, because he wouldn't make it out of the GOP primaries, the right would destroy him before he ever got to the general election.
     
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    The Democrats are afraid od Christie. They always telegraph who they are frightened of. The more they attack a potential candidate, the more afraid they are of the guy.
     
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    I'm not afraid. He's toast!
     
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    To win the GOP presidential nomination, you need to do something significant - like coming up with an individually-mandated universal healthcare coverage plan - but the former frontrunner New Jersey Big Boy is back-peddling like Michael Jackson on steroids .... and fudge.

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    Is this someone who we want for president?

     

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