The Truth about Chris Christie by (another) Jersey Guy

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    NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie took into office promising "a new era of accountability and transparency." Yet after he won a second term last year and as he explores a run for president, his administration stands accused of routinely stonewalling even the most basic requests for public records.

    Attorneys involved in lawsuits filed in search of public records say they have seen a spike in the number of such cases in the past six months.

    The lawyers, along with media organizations and watchdog groups, also say they have received more arbitrary justifications for the denial of requests made under New Jersey's open records law, as well as an increased willingness by the state attorney general's office to fight such requests in court.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...p_ref=politics
     
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    What I find hilarious is that he may be the best prospect that the Republicans have!
     
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    Will fails to mention that :


    Read More http://www.salon.com/2014/10/09/geo...or_2016_if_you_just_ignore_all_the_bad_stuff/
     
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    Christie won't make it as a presidential candidate. Republicans don't like him because they think he's too liberal. Everyone else doesn't like him because they think he's a doosh-bag.
     
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    WASHINGTON -- Some NAACP delegates were furious that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) was invited to speak at the state conference's annual membership event on Saturday, saying Christie's appearance was merely for show, The Star-Ledger reports.

    It would appear that if Republicans want to garner the support of African Americans, Christie is not the one to do it.
     
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    'No questions!' Chris Christie clams up and CANCELS three press conferences on final day of disastrous UK trip


    New Jersey governor replaced a trio of scheduled open-press availabilities with closed events instead
    Tuesday was the last day of a tough UK tour that saw him start a national frenzy over childhood vaccines

    A testy Chistie badgered reporters in London: 'Is there something you don't understand about, "No questions"?'
    Mitt Romney met with similar disaster during a foreign-policy trip to the UK in 2012, saying he doubted Londoners were ready for the olympics


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ferences-final-day-UK-trip.html#ixzz3QtZGeiMQ
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    Christie will not be nominated although he would be an improvement over what we have now. It will likely be Walker, Bush, or Huckabee, although things can change with the time we have left.
     
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    Looking for a progress report on Chris Christie's campaign for president? Picture the wicked witch in the Wizard of Oz after Dorothy threw water on her.

    Yes, our governor is melting into a puddle of goo as his glorious power seeps away. His friends and enemies alike are watching, astonished at the speed of the decline.

    "It's about the worst 30 days I've seen of any candidate," says Ed Rollins, a former aide to Ronald Reagan and a GOP campaign strategist. "In his first couple of years, he had a lot of promise. But people who a year ago thought he was viable now say he's not. http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf..._dr.html?ath=7fb8a14c63fafdb2220bf413f16bb496
     
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    Go Christie!!
     
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    I'm in New Jersey and I'm here to tell you that Christie is no moderate. He is however, incompetent as an administrator and leader
     
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    as incompetent as Hillary ? I think anyone would have a record better than her. Even the Daily Kos says so

    Hillary Clinton, Empty Pantsuit: Her Track Record from the Senate

    Before we begin, let's consider some definitions of leadership and effectiveness in the Senate. Although there are many types of leadership in the Senate, I think we can all agree that sponsoring more bills that become law, all else being equal, is an indicator of influence and leadership. Likewise, I think we can also agree that having a higher percentage of one's bills become law, all else being equal, is an indicator of effectiveness.

    As measured by these definitions, Hillary Clinton's leadership over her seven years in the Senate has been marginal, and her effectiveness over her Senate terms has been extremely poor. In fact, she has a remarkably poor track record at turning her sponsored legislation into law, to the extent that she's an outlier among her Democratic colleagues. Of 337 bills that Hillary has introduced, only 2 have become law. These numbers are always lower than you'd think -- it isn't easy to get a bill passed -- but Hillary's batting average is especially poor.



    As far as Secretary of State just look at Egypt, Libya, and Syria. Does anyone really think the mid east is in better shape today because of her work as SoS ?
     
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    I think that this thread is about Christie
     
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    I was just pointing out that in comparison to Hillary Christie seems to be more of someone who actually gets legislation passed. Sorry if the comparison hurts your feelings but it is a valid point. Any thread about a GOP presidential candidate it is fair to compare their qualifications and track record to Hillary since she is all the Dems have this time. Christie also has shown he is good at governmental management. Hillary seemed to be inept at even managing the state Department which is another plus for Christie
     
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    far left wants Warren

    she's unelectable. She plays well in the liberal northeast and California
     
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    Lets face it Sec, barring unforseen events, neither Christie nor Warren will be heading up their parties ticket. Christie does not play well outside his State just as Warren does not play well outside Manhattan and Malibu as you pointed out. I am fairly conservative and Christie reminds me of that old sitcom " King of Queens". Just a wild guess here this far out but I would say Walker , Bush, or Kasich wil be on the GOP ticket and Hillary on the Dem side. I could see one or two of the other GOP candidates winning it as longshots, but all the Dems have is their retread
     
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    You must not have read the OP or any of my subsequent posts about Christie. He has been a nightmare for New Jersey and while once popular , his pol number are in the toilet, as is the state. You might want to visit my face book page too https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Wi...coln-Comes-Back-From-The-Dead/215684648568860
     
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    now why would I want to read a facebook page of a self professed straight ticket voter? I enjoy reading some of the more liberal webpages such as. Huff and Puff Post and Fire Dog Lake becasue the authors there at least are capable of complex thinking. Seems like your thought process stops at the (D) or (R) at the end of the candidates name. I would not be bragging about that if I were you, but that is just me
     
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    Guilty as charged. The Republicans need to break away from the extremists right wing nut jobs for starters. In the past there were conservatives who I could respect but now all there we have are the lunatics and guys like Christie and Busch and Walker who give the outward appearance of being same and competent but are complicit in the extremism and allow themselves to get sucked into it.
     
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    sounds like you are referring to the progressive wing of the Democratic party, the ones who ran all the blue dogs out and turned the Democratic party from that of the working man to that of the moochers. Dems need to ditch the Donkey and adopt a leech as their party symbol

    Hillary's yard gnome, James Carville, said it best

    Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have a clue as to political reality.
    What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want.

    The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn't have a clue than there were Republicans
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    http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/32408.James_Carville
     
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    Okay. Christie is not a leftist. Of course, I knew that before. I suspect if he had to, he could move to the left because he is a politician.
     
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    Well, the Democratic party as well as those who support them are far from perfect. However, there are a few deal breakers that prevent me from touching a republican with a ten foot pole and a close pin on my nose:
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    1. War mongering. Look at this Iranian thing? Do you doubt that we would not be in another war if Romney had been elected.

    2. Trickle down, supply side economics and give aways to the bogus "job creators"

    3. The war on women. Don't tell me its not real.

    4. The war on immigration.

    5. The war on gays. They are just ridiculous. Social issues matter

    6. Their stupid ideas about religious freedom and the belief that it somehow came to mean the freedom to discriminate.

    7. Their stupid ideas about federalism and states rights-acting as those we were still under the articles of confederation and that the civil war turned out differently

    8. Their stupid anti-science, anti education, dumb everything down, to hell with the earth mentality.

    9. The war on the ACA

    It's all about what king of nation we want
     
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    Thanks for proving Carvilles assessment of the Democrats was dead on. I started laughing so hard at number 1 one I could not continue further. Considering the reputation of the Democrats candidate for 2016 you may want to wipe this one off the list of GOP talking points. She isn't known as Hillary the hawk for nothing
     
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    Laugh all you want. Romney or any of the other Republicans would get us into another mid east war a lot faster than Clinton would. So you don't have the courage to read the rest? Oh well, here is one more. They need to accept the principle of separation of church and state and stop trying to make this country a theocracy. Not all Republicans are guilty of all of these crimes, but many are and those who are not are guilty by association and their failure to speak out.
     
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    want to bet ? You don't know much about her.

    By the way your list is a stereotype, I am living proof of that. Here is something you may want to consider

    Definition of BIGOT
    : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
    — big·ot·ed

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

    if someone told you that they believed all Democrats were sex perverts I bet this is what you would call them yet you believe all Republicans are like your list
     
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    eeeeeerrrr I specifically said "Not all Republicans are guilty of all of these crimes" But, they are pervasive characteristics that pervade the party. Here is more on your boy Christie:

    Always watching out for the people of NJ who were duped into electing him.
     

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