The U.S. Already Soaks the Rich In 2021 the richest 1% paid 45.8% of income taxes, up from..

that you agree with his stilted misdefinitions of normal words proves how right I am. any position you support is guaranteed to be wrong

 

another gut busting bit of bullshit. the federal income tax is not designed to steal the wages of working people given "working people" pay so little of the total share. of course the people who really work are the ones paying the most of it-the top 5%

 

No it doesn't. Land is by definition a natural resource that requires no maintenance.

Nope. Historically, the owners of such privileges have just charged what the market would bear.

Nope. Honest, productive working people pay the taxes that secure privileges, not the privileged, just as in our current system.

Google "protection racket" and start reading. Unregulated bandits are quite capable of stealing only what can be afforded.

Garbage. See above. Google "medical bankruptcy USA" and start reading.

 

Roads are not a natural resource and does need maintenance. Do you not drive?
I don't know of one toll road or easement that does not have oversight by the government in some form or another. Do you have an example?
Honest, productive working people pay taxes and that includes the evil, rich, privileged people that you hate and who support you and your lifestyle.

 

This from a guy that calls taxes theft.

 

You do nothing but spew falsehoods.

That is merely another bald falsehood from you. The great majority of US federal individual income tax is paid by high-income working people on their earned incomes.

But it is high-income WORKING PEOPLE -- doctors, lawyers, engineers, real estate sales people, bankers, self-employed business people, etc. -- who are paying most of that, not "the rich."

"We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes."
-- real estate billionaire Leona Helmsley

 

There is no road involved in the example. You are just makin' $#!+ up so that you can prevent yourself from knowing the relevant facts.

All governments control possession and use of land because that is what government IS: the sovereign authority over a specific area of land.

You are just trying to prevent yourself from knowing the fact that the landowner is privileged to charge others full market value for what government, the community, and nature provide, and which he does not, repeat, NOT provide.

What are you talking about? Of course there is government oversight. The relevant privileges are issued and enforced by governments. That is kinda the point.

GARBAGE. The privileged don't support working people, working people are forced to support them. Without the landowner, what would prevent people from just using the land, as our remote ancestors did to survive for millions of years before anyone ever dreamed of owning land, hmmm?

 

Same with submarines, and just as irrelevant. What the bandit controls -- legally or otherwise -- is a natural resource, not a road.

You are merely trying to change the subject from natural resources to products of labor because you know that you have been conclusively refuted.

I already answered you, and you know it. Read my previous response to your disingenuous claptrap.

You are merely repeating absurd, disingenuous garbage I have already conclusively refuted. It is honest, productive working people who are forced to support rich, greedy, privileged parasites, and I will thank you to remember it.

 

This is your example:

Do you think that these caravans just meander through the woods on no specific trail, no road, just going a different way every trip?

Isn't there a age limit for this forum?

 

The "normal" definitions have themselves been changed from more honest and accurate previous ones. I have no idea what you think is "anarchy" in my views.
[/quote]rejected by 95% of the citizens of the USA.[/QUOTE]
Yes, well, lots of Americans reject the theory of evolution.

Are you unaware of the fact that 95% of people rejecting a fact doesn't and can't make it not a fact?

 

Which, as you have known all along but are disingenuously pretending not to, does not mention roads. You are merely trying to change the subject because you know you have been conclusively refuted.

Oh, no doubt there are trails, normal routes that previous caravans have used and worn, like the trails wild animals make in the forest, or the wagon tracks pioneers sometimes followed to cross the western plains of the USA.

Do you think merchant caravans never went anywhere without a road?

<yawn> What a very good question that is. Is it anything but more of your despicable and disgraceful ad hominem filth, and another disingenuous attempt to change the subject?

Have you no shame?

 

I dated a girl a long time ago. She was absolutely gorgeous and we had gone to high school together. Her family was pretty well off. She blamed everything that happened to her on someone else, or some system that was designed to keep her down. I finally had to break up. I couldn't take it any more. I went on to a great career and have had a pretty good life. I ran into her a while back and she's still dirt poor, single, and still blaming everyone else for her problems.

 

That is EXACTLY what slave owners said to the abolitionists, and for exactly the same "reasons." Congratulations on joining your ideological soulmates.

I just believe in rightful property in the fruits of one's labor, not wrongful property in others' rights to liberty. You think rightful property includes other people's liberty rights without any compensation for the forcible removal of those rights, like slave deeds, land deeds, and other privileges. Simple.

 

It's unfortunately true that most people are intelligent enough to know that there is something wrong with the economy that unjustly burdens them, but not intelligent enough to figure out what it is. Many resort to socialism, woke ideology, nativism, Trump worship, and other simple but misguided theories, or take refuge in religious beliefs that promise justice in the next world. It is an open question whether they are intelligent enough to understand it if it is explained to them clearly and simply enough, but I'm trying:

"You're here because you know something. What you know, you can't explain. But you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. Like a splinter in your mind -- driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?"

 

Another red pill down the hatch...

 

Semantics describes how people use language to communicate meaning. That is what I am trying to do. As Newton showed with Principia Mathematica, to understand the world, you first have to get the definitions right.

No. There is a difference between production and asset value. If the value of a parcel of raw land increases from $1K to $1M, nothing has been produced but a $999K increase in the owner's wealth. That's what privilege is all about. IP monopolies transfer wealth to their owners by reducing production. That's how they are designed to work.

There is no way to change the rates of an inherently unfair tax that will make it fair -- other than making all the rates 0. You might as well ask what the fair rate of the window tax would be.

Rent seeking is often hard work. It just isn't productive. That is very much the point. Don't you think protection racketeers also work hard to make sure their victims pay up, and no rival can muscle in on their racket? It's very difficult and dangerous work, not to say unpleasant. But does that mean protection racketeers earn their incomes? Would they if it was legal? That is the question you have to evade.

Yes, I try to communicate meaning clearly. You are more interested in preventing clear communication. I get it.

I call bull$#!+.

 

Because it is the most productive of the poor who pay the highest rates of all.

Do you think that because you had to carry the parasites and were able to finish the race despite carrying that burden, everyone else should be forced to carry them, too?

 

How do those who have a negative tax rate laying the highest rate of all. I posted the rates you hace posted nothing to refute them.

Why shouldn't they if they are able bodied?

 

Or to avoid it.

Distinctions without merit.

That is not privilege that is smart investing. Go buy some land like anyone can.

Then why is Biden and the Dems running on it and all tje Dems I Congress stood up and clapped when he said it in his SOTU speech?

Production is not possible without investment and successful production requires proper management of the capital necessary.
Customers are not victims do you see yourself as a victim whenever you purchase a product or service?

Lack of rebuttal noted.

 

Yes when he left talks about taxing the rich more that includes the wealthy.

When are you going to give me the "fair" share everyone should be paying?

How many were able to make it work?

No because it does when they are as in 99% the highest earners.

Ahhh this is about FEDERAL taxation.

So taxation is stealing?

 

On which line of your tax return do you deduct that interest?

Yes I can derive income from my musical instruments so also increase in value. So I have to pay a tax on that increase in value as it increases? I have a ci collectors sports car. It went up in value this year should I have to a tax on that increase?

It is if they go for it.

So the tax payer has to absorb all the loses and the government none? What about all the other forms of wealth? My guitars and sports car?

You also have to be able to calculate it which is impossible under a wealth tax system as about a dozen European countries found out.

 

Classic excuse making.

You had to buy your right to liberty from an owner? In what country do you live?

So, the fact that you were strong enough to run the race while carrying the load of parasites on your back is a reason why everyone else should have to carry them, too?

Run that one by me again.[/QUOTE]

 

So give me the "fair" distribution of taxes paid?

 

And if they had ALL the money they’d pay even more. The more the wealth gets concentrated in the top 1% the higher share they’ll pay

 

yawn, the hysterical attempt to compare land owners or stock holders with slave owners is so incredibly worthless I am laughing. You don't have a liberty right to property others own. You act as if real estate is some sort of conspiracy against people who don't have the means or intelligence to buy real property