THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

Now this is definitely firehose material, Jack.

 

General Petraeus is a f**king dumbass.

The Russians lost 20 million in WW2 fighting and beating the Nazis. The US/Nato has been training and arming self-identifying nazis in the ukraine for 8 years straight, after the US removed the last democratically elected President of the ukraine.

Don't think for a second that the Russians won't push the button. They are tired of ****ing around with stupid ass US foreign policy....we shouldn't be anywhere and I mean anywhere close to Russia's borders....and if our leaders weren't such ignorant sorry ass crooks, then NATO wouldn't have moved one inch East of Germany, as was agreed.

 

And your rank in the military was what Bill? Whinger 1st class? Give Petraeus some credit. The man rose though the ranks of the US Army spending a lot of years commanding Airborne Units along the way. Even allowing for some degree of hypothetical patronage once he achieved higher rank the man had to demonstrate a level of competence to achieve the rank he did.

 

It doesn't take much to work out some things for most. It's unfortunate for some that they haven't got much to use to work them out.

 

Do you really get caught up in that stupid **** too? The man didn't work he way up, he had his little silver spoon and daddy's connections. West Point graduate that never did boot camp. Never saw a front line. Never had dirt under his fingernails. Did command in Afghanistan...that says enough. Swamped his way around DC and the MIC and eventually was banging a book writer behind his wife's back....that would be the woman he gave classified info to in exchange for ass. Got off easy with those charges.

Credit you say?

He's a ****ing dumbass POS.

 

It's just a matter of resources.

 

First, with clear deterrence. Second, if necessary, with retaliation.

 

There was no "one inch" agreement. That's a fabrication.
If the Russians decide to "push the button" that's their choice. Their destruction would follow.
No one cares what the Russians are tired of. The world is tired of them.

 

There certainly was a "not one inch" agreement. Everyone knows it and your assertion to the contrary is just plain old bovine excrement. It's you and your firehose again.

 

Nope. Never an agreement. Read and learn.

Mikhail Gorbachev and the NATO Enlargement Debate
https://transatlanticrelations.org › 19-Palazhchenko
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by P Palazhchenko · Cited by 1 — U.S. Secretary of State James Baker's famous “not one inch east- ward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with So- viet leader Mikhail

 

In writing? Link please...

 

It is funny how everyone who was there says there was never any such agreement and certainly nothing in writing. Only Putin, who was not even there, claims there was. Odd that.

 

Looks like the orcs are starting to mop each other up now.

Putin’s Dueling Foot Soldiers Are Now Apparently Killing Each Other Off
Allison Quinn
Wed, October 5, 2022 at 11:42 AM

While Ukraine’s military has been successfully chasing Russian troops out of one territory after another, Vladimir Putin’s foot soldiers have apparently been turning their weapons on each other as the Russian leader’s “special military operation” continues to come apart at the seams in spectacular fashion.

The Kremlin’s flailing bid to get an edge on the battlefield by deploying mercenaries from the Wagner Group—which now includes hundreds of prison inmates—has reportedly backfired as the private military force butts heads with the Russian military.

The growing conflict resulted in a Wagner fighter gunning down a lieutenant colonel in the Russian army—a deadly episode of “friendly fire” that the Kremlin is said to be trying to sweep under the rug, according to the human rights group Gulagu.net.

... https://news.yahoo.com/putin-dueling-foot-soldiers-now-155912351.html​

 

What are these troops doing, they're enlisting, not surrendering. Yahoo news, geez. Turn a photograph into a firehose.

 

We have some fistfights and less a half dozen suspicious deaths due to 'friendly fire' which may end being defined as straight up murder when they have been fully investigated. But I'm not seeing evidence of anything resembling a pattern of conduct. Mind you, it does not take a 4.0 West Point Grad to figure out that emptying the prisons for recruits , will not lead to unit cohesion and high morale in the trenches.

 

The more Russia loses and the more fingers get pointed, the more this sort of thing is likely to occur and make Russia's overall forces even less motivated and effective overall, I feel.

I agree that sending convicts to the front lines does not foster, shall we say, esprit de corps.

 

Chechen Soldiers Now Fighting Alongside Ukrainian Forces

The Chechen leader recently spoke out in support of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, however, some elite soldiers from the Chechen Republic are now fighting against Russia alongside Ukraine. NBC News’ Jay Gray has the details in addition to speaking with several of the war-hardened soldiers.​

 

Ukraine Soldiers Captured Russian Soldiers with BMP-2 in the Kherson Region.


The Russians rolled up with white flags on display and surrendered. Very nice.

 

The internet is a wonderful thing.

This was kherson after it was liberated from Russia.

98 percent in favor of joining Russia was it?

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMFYJh3Gx/

How's it feel to know you are the bad guys?

 

You will notice a pattern with this stuff. The Putinbots claim multiple 'agreements' and 'treaties' where NATO od the US make some promise to Russia. When you pin them down for actual sources that actually prove this they just run away. In the end the most you find is that someone might have said something - nothing formal, nothing signed, just a few words.

On the other hand, when Russia clearly violates signed treaties & agreements that is handwaved away.

Every. Single. Time.

 

The other 2%?

 

I would NOT want to be a Russian who gets caught by those guys. I'm betting they haven't dug up a version of the Geneva Convention translated into Chechen.

 

I shouldn't have laughed when I read that, but I did.

 

We're gonna mop so much you'll be sick of mopping...

 

You didn't answer the question posed to you about your military rank/career.

But here's some info on Petraeus.

...
Education and academia
Petraeus graduated from West Point in 1974, receiving a Bachelor of Science degree in Military Science. He earned the General George C. Marshall Award as the top graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College Class of 1983 at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. He subsequently earned an M.P.A. in 1985 and a Ph.D. in international relations in 1987 from Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, where he was mentored by Richard H. Ullman.[37]
...
Military operations

U.S. Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, during his time in the Army
1970s
Upon his graduation from West Point in 1974, Petraeus was commissioned an infantry officer. After completing Ranger School (Distinguished Honor Graduate and other honors), Petraeus was assigned to the 509th Airborne Battalion Combat Team, a light infantry unit stationed in Vicenza, Italy.[48] Ever since, light infantry has been at the core of his career, punctuated by assignments to mechanized units, unit commands, staff assignments, and educational institutions. After leaving the 509th as a first lieutenant,[49] Petraeus began a brief association with mechanized units when he became assistant operations officer on the staff of the 2nd Brigade, 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized), at Fort Stewart, Georgia. In 1979, he assumed command of a company in the same division: A Company, 2nd Battalion, 19th Infantry Regiment (Mechanized), and then served as that battalion's operations officer, a major's position that he held as a junior captain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus