THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    Ahahaha....You still consider having a car a sign of success? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    However ... In Russia, several car models are still considered status - Ferrari, Bugati, Maserati (this one is not very status, but it can be considered with a stretch), a couple of Porsche models, Royce, Bentley, Marusya, and Lamborghini. All.
    The rest of the cars are means of transportation from point "A" to point "B".
    So, your bravado about having a Nissan on your property was ridiculous.
     
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    Just comparing my own success with the level of success the average Russian has. I know only the rich pro-Putin Russians own expensive cars. How well does the average Russian live? Do they own a house on some land, multiple cars and a boat?
     
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    But the cost of housing is cheap. And healthcare is free.
     
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    By the way, a Google request gives an answer about the average salary in Russia - 70 thousand rubles. This is more than what you indicated.
    And of course you do not want to answer the question - how much do utility services cost in the US and Canada? How much does a rented apartment cost, for example, in New York?
     
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    Free healthcare, while life expectancy in US is 79.11, while in Russia 72.99, 6 years less. Shitty free healthcare, I would say. But You keep worrying about poor US citizens. :D
     
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    Why You ask me about utilities costs, I'm not the citizen of US or Canada. But in know fur sure, that people in Russia live much much much worse than people in US or Canada. That's why it's so funny to look, how Russian citizen is worried about people in Canada or US.
     
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    In Russia, over 80% of the population are homeowners.
    But I must say that a very large number of homeowners received housing for free in the USSR.
    In Russia, you can get 1 hectare of land for free. Of course, no one will give you a hectare of land in Moscow or Rostov-on-Don, but in the Far East, Siberia and in a number of other regions, any resident of Russia can get 1 hectare of land for free. At the same time, the state will provide access to electricity, water supply and, in the future, gas supply. (By the way, now, after the imposition of sanctions, the state in Russia is actively supplying gas to the population. The state is supplying a gas pipeline to your site for free. Further, the process of gasification of your house is at your expense.)
    There are housing programs in large cities of Russia, but, admittedly, they are not available to everyone. Orphans (children, orphanage graduates), parents with many children and the disabled receive 100% free housing. (It should be noted that bureaucracy is also present in these issues. But everything is decided).
    There are preferential mortgage programs, and even programs to write off half the cost of housing at the expense of the state. But again, this is not for everyone. If you earn well, you can write off part of the cost of housing, but under certain conditions. (I don’t know the details. Something related to health or having many children. I can’t say for sure)
    And I also want to note that the size of houses is smaller compared to southern countries. But this is not due to the economy, but to the climate. In Russia, the sizes of houses are the same as in Norway or Sweden. In the south of Russia, the size of the house is larger. But, again, this is due to climatic features. On average, in Russia most of the year is cold.

    In Russia, there are about 500 cars per 1,000 people. Cars are available and if desired, everyone can have a car. But not everyone wants. Public transport is very well developed in Russia. For example, the frequency of trains in the Moscow metro during rush hour is 50 seconds between trains. Usually metro trains run every 3 minutes. At night 5 minutes between trains. It's like an example. It is difficult to keep a car in large cities, so many people do not want to have a car. In rural areas, almost the entire population owns a car.


    Boats are owned by those who desire it. Having your own yacht in Russia is expensive and difficult to maintain. Therefore, yachts are mostly rich Russians. But a boat with a motor or rowing is easily available.
    By the number of yachts, Russia is far behind the USA. In Russia, if the ocean, then the Arctic. Not particularly conducive to yachting.

    P\S:
    Forgot to write. You buy one ticket for the Moscow metro (approximately 85-90 US cents) and you can ride in all stations. In Russia, only entrance to the metro is paid. Transfers are free.
     
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    Ahahaha .... The United States is ahead of Russia in a number of other indicators. For example, by the number of drug addicts and the homeless. And of course, the United States is the undisputed leader in the number of prisoners and all sorts of crazy people on the streets of cities. But after all so it is accepted at "Democracy". Is not it? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Nevertheless, the state is still obliged to give permanent shelter for free to anybody who needs better living conditions or has no permanent registration. This is because the right to shelter is still included in the constitution. However, this may take many years. Nobody still has the right to strip a person of permanent residency without their will, even the owner of the apartment. This creates problems for banks because mortgage loans became increasingly popular. Banks are obliged to provide a new, cheaper flat for a person instead of the old one if the person fails to repay the loan, or wait until all people who live in the flat are dead. Several projects of special cheap 'social' flats for those who failed to repay mortgages were proposed to facilitate the mortgage market.[5]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_Russia

    Your government fails miserably at taking care of its people. It exemplifies why many Americans oppose having a larger government in the first place.
     
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    Because those pig farmers are mercs, the Pig farmers are confused and are farming potatoes.
     
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    Don't forget the illegal immigrants.
     
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    Russian city. Stream from ordinary streets. Look at people. Does it look like the Russians are in need?
     
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    I, and I bet You too, did not count homeless un US and Russia, but US citizen live 6 years longer than RF citizen, that's the fact.
     
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    Yes. And this too.
     
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    I'm a fluent Russian speaker, and I was in Russia. You can stop show to me one nice street in huge country.
     
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    Interesting stuff. I do see some policies in Russia that look appealing but I wouldn't give up the freedoms I currently have over living under a dictatorship with less freedoms.

    The level of average livelihood is still behind an Americans, but I can see where people can get buy.

    I did notice that the average monthly income is about 12,130 RUB per month (USD 162.42). The average American makes more than that in one day.

    Yet, the average American can live in a house with land within 30 minutes drive time of any major city except maybe New York City. I do understand at least 70% of Russians do live in Apartments which is probably conducive to Public transportation. Due to the high cost of owning/maintaining about a 1/3rd of all Russians actually own a vehicle in Russia. This is probably due to the cost of vehicles on average being 1,823,000 rubles ($31,5 thousand). I doubt the average Russian making $162 a month can ever afford a car whereas just about most poor people (up to 80%) own a vehicle in the USA.
     
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    Watch the entire stream. There are many streets there.

    But do you want other cities? Please.
    For example, Rostov-on-Don


    St. Petersburg


    Vladivostok


    Novosibirsk
     
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    32% of of Russia households don't have a toilet or indoor plumbing so stop pretending how great Russia is.
     
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    A handful of decent cities funded by energy exports in a vast wilderness of poverty and despair.
     
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    Actually, it is 20%, but to have any household without indoor plumbing in the USA is unheard of.
     
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    The average income in Russia is 70 thousand rubles. However, this income is subject to only 13% taxes. It's called Income Tax. All. There are no other taxes.

    Once again, any Russian can buy a car. Not premium segment. But even in the US, not every American can buy a luxury car.

    It is true that in Russia a lot of people live in multi-apartment and high-rise buildings. Certainly not 70%, but a lot. I think about 30%. The rural population 99% live in separate houses, many urban residents live in separate houses.
    Transport infrastructure in Russia is very well developed initially. Perhaps this is due to the period of the wars.
    Russians war a lot. Now 70 years without war on the territory of Russia, this is the first time in its history. Usually every 20-30 years Russians face a war.
    We can say that it is a way of life and economy. Hence the infrastructure, which is optimal in case of war.
     
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    Ahahaha.... Yes. Yes. There is no running water in Russia. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    FYI. Ukraine bombed the territory of Russia. And, records show 70% live in Apartment buildings. 20% of the entire Russian Population do not have indoor plumbing. This is unheard of in the USA where even the poorest person making minimum wage, the majority still own a car and has indoor plumbing.

    And, I have no doubt the public transport system is well set up in Russia being hardly anybody can afford to own a car. The tax rate is conducive being the wages are so low.

    I do agree the infrastructure is optimal in cases of war and no country ever threatens Russia proper which is the same for the USA being we are both world powers.
     
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    Yes, show me the outskirts of Cita or Murmansk for example.
     

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