The vaccine won't make the virus go away

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  1. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    The same is true with capitalism, totalism, religion or just plain old law of nature.
     
  2. Moonglow

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    Then say what you mean.
     
  3. Moonglow

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    You mean like an annual flu shot?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one is trying to force or coerce people to take the flu shot.
    No one is even thinking about forcing people to take the flu shot.
     
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    I never took the annual flu shot, and for those who did, it was often only about 50% effective. And my oldest brother said the shot actually gave his daughter the flu.
     
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    Who doesn't know that a flu shot gives you the flu?
     
  7. Moonglow

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    Evidently you have never been in the military or flew commercial to Europe or Asia, shots are mandatory. A flu shot is mandatory for people working in the healthcare industry and where services are provided for people at risk....Yeah, you may think the flu shot is not mandatory but it is.
     
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    It doesn't. So you're either lying about that or just very uninformed on the topic. Neither of which speaks well of you.

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/326810
     
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    Those surgeries are happening now.
     
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    Another problem is hospitals are more short-staffed than they used to be because they are firing nurses who refuse to get the vaccine due to personal considerations and individual belief.

    Oh well, maybe when people start falling over dead due to inadequate medical personnel available to care for them, the hospitals will be forced to rethink their policies on that.
     
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    You mean, people's bodies are no longer their own like in "no masturbation, no abortion, no homosexual sex, no sinful pleasures of the flesh" rules of the mostly religious right?
     
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    They don't want to discuss the truth. The truth must be buried. If you look at all of the latest info coming from the CDC they have now begun drilling the hospitalization and death rates, basically completely surrendering to the fact that vaccinated people are spreading Delta everywhere because the vaccines do close to nothing regarding the spread of the disease. They won't come right out and admit that fact but they have completely given up talking about anything else but the hospitalization and death rates.
     
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    You are absolutely right!
     
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Vaccines result in vanishingly small hospitalization rates and to my knowledge NO vaccinated person has yet DIED from any variant.

    What do you want to do instead? Stay on total lockdown forever? Kill people who test positive?

    Given the highly contagious and virulent nature of the variants it is obvious that we soon will all be infected. Vaccines are the only hope.
     
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    Please cite some instances of where the "media" has done this. My impression has been they have done nothing of the kind.
     
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    The majority (60%+) dying of Covid in the UK are vaccinated. The media says this is to be expected.
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    An article from a MEDICAL JOURNAL. Everyone knows that all Medical Journals are the mouthpieces for the HORRIBLE MEDICAL INDUSTRY and the thousands upon thousands of EVOL DOCTORS who all make millions by bilking the sheeple with their "cures" and "surgeries" which mislead thousands every year in their perfidious campaign to coerce us into not gargling with Lysol and failing to ram black lites up our behinds like the Dear Leader told us to.
     
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  20. independentthinker

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    Whoah there. Man, are you misinformed. Tons of vaccinated people have died, not only from the vaccines themselves but from variants. You are severely misinformed. Even the lefty MSM have said vaccinated people are dying from the virus.
     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Please cite them.
     
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    Obviously, you lack critical thinking.

    Hospitals make more money by admitting non-Covid patients.

    2019 total revenues: $1.1 trillion
    2019 total hospital admissions; 36.2 million

    Average revenue per non-Covid hospital admission; $30,386

    Average Medicare payment per Covid hospital admission $25,000


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    YOU SAID; “Non-Covid hospital admissions were down due to the shutdowns”

    “Solely” due to shutdowns??????

    Wrong!

    Once again, you lack critical thinking/brain power.

    There are many reasons why 2020/2021 non-Covid hospital admissions fell precipitously, and the main reason why is HOSPITAL BED CAPACITY/Cancellation of elective procedures.....DUE TO COVID19.
     
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    I really shouldn't have to educate you on this subject. You appear far too partisan to know anything more than what the lefties spoon feed you. But here goes, and before you give me any bullcrap about the stats I must remind you that you said as far as you know, NO vaccinated person has died from Covid. Also, remember that these are only US figures so the worldwide figure would be much higher.

    https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/10/22618163/covid-deaths-vaccinated-data-how-many-die

    If you are oblivious to simple facts maybe you need to find a forum of just lefties.
     
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    Want to try again? I realize you only know what the crackpot right wing nutjobs feed you.

    https://faqs.in.gov/hc/en-us/articl...-died-after-getting-the-vaccine-Is-this-true-

    Reality 101: People die. Some happened to have gotten the vaccine. Are you claiming the vaccine should make everyone immune to death from all causes?

    And the other point you pretend to make is silly. Almost everyone in the hospital from Covid is not vaccinated. THAT is the important point that you are trying to obscure.
     
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