The view from the bunker.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those convicted for their participation in the Jan. 6 Capital riot should be freed.

    The members of all four grand juries who voted to indict Trump and his co-defendants were corrupted.

    Calling in to question the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson regarding what happened in the "Beast" on Jan. 6 completely de-legitimizes the findings of the Jan. 6 committee.

    Joe Biden lost the 2020 election and is guilty of taking payoff money from foreign entities.

    Man made global warming is a hoax.

    Possessing a gun reduces gun violence.

    Death threats and other means of intimidation being made against public officials involved in ongoing cases for which Trump is a defendant are of little consequence.

    The deep state exists.

    Immigrants illegally crossing the border are sub-human vermin.

    The prosecutors who have followed the grand jury's instructions to indict Trump and his co-defendants are part of a grand election interference scheme.

    The US-Mexican border is open.

    Democrats believe women have penises.

    Donald Trump is a great American who thinks only of what he can do for the country.

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    What did I get wrong?
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Thus sayeth the demagogues of the left. For defying the authority, languish in prison for ever. And yet, the left will tolerate no challenge to their iron fisted tyranny. This is what it must have felt like living in the old Soviet.
     
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  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wonder if you could put the hyperbolic rhetoric aside and tell me what I got wrong?

    For example, if this......For defying the authority, languish in prison for ever.....is a reference to those convicted for their participation in the Jan. 6 Capital riot do you believe they should be let go?
     
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    Yes no one should be in jail for four years for aggravated trespassing. If there are actual death threats arrest the twerps that made them. As it happens most of these so call death threats are little more than people calling in and saying in often rather colorful language that they will never vote for that scum bag again. Man made global warming in light of actual scientific evidence is little more that a govern scheme to advance bureaucratic power. I don't like the term hoax it sounds comparatively benevolent compared to the real motive behind it. The number of guns in the country has literally nothing to do with the level of violence in same allowing for all other possible influences. Note the deep state is a best a reference to the Administrative state's intelligence apparatus. If you think that doesn't exist well I don't have words they'll let me use here to describe that sort of naivete.
    A good many of them crossing our southern border have lengthy criminal records.

    Oh please the grand Jury only exists because the prosecutor called it into being and showed it only the information the prosecutor thought would get him the directive he sought. You should at least try to do something that vaguely approaches reality.

    Open would be a more than adequate description of a border that has allowed more people into country into the last three years than in the previous 2 decades.
     
  5. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Democrats believe men can get pregnant and people can biologically change their gender.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please explain.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    More of the same "Trump should be held above the law because boo people I disagree with" hot garbage.
     
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    You think he should be below the law because you hate him.
     
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    Good! Don't free them. The more they are treated like hostages the more Trump's number shoot up.
     
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    It is not uncommon for libs to think laws should match whatever their feelings are. Not saying they all are that way but it does seem to be a very common trend amongst them.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many Trump supporters on the board have espoused a belief in the things I listed. Why the reluctance to defend them?
     
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    Where did you read this or hear this?! You may like to consider different sources brah...:)
     
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    And now a view from the opposing bunker:

    Global warming is going to destroy the planet

    We can tax and spend our way to prosperity

    We can pick and choose our gender at will

    Forgiving student debt will boost our economy but lowering taxes won't

    Millions of illegals are a good thing until they show up in sanctuary cities

    We can make people smarter and more successful if things are dumbed down

    If you look hard enough everything is racist
     
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    The difference between you and me is that I actually take time to read the law involving these cases. I'm sorry that you think fraud should be legal, but it isn't. I'm sorry you think it should be legal to steal and conceal national security documents. It isn't. I'm sorry you think it is okay to use fake electors to overturn an election. It isn't.
     
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    You have no clue what the laws say. You only listen to what the prosecutor tells you.

    Your own post proves my point: Trump isn't being charged with being a "fake" elector...lol

    You also think there's a difference between Trump's documents and Biden's documents. You think that the legal standard on 18 USC 793 is the requirement of intent.

    You think Trump committed Federal campaign finance violations, because Alvin Bragg told you he did.

    You think assessed value and appraised value on real estate are the same thing.

    Your posts prove you've never read the laws...lol
     
  16. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    More nonsense from people who believe that trump ought to be in jail just because he is Republican.
     
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    Trump's a republican? I thought all this time he was and is about himself? You know, Trump over country.....;)
     
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    He she works for Planned Parenthood what side of the political divide do you think the doctor is on?
     
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    So you've bunkered down then? Scared of the eclipse like WBK? ;)
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    You should try addressing this reality some time rather than the one that only exist beneath your fevered brow.
     
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    Again, I read the laws that you refuse to.

    Are you trying to break your record on reading fails? Try again. Or I can try to simplify it for you.

    Yes. Intent is a major requirement for said criminal charges. If you take a look at the past convictions involving this law, intent was always a factor. In fact, some case law says it would be illegal to exclude intent. Either way, the FBI doesn't prosecute this crime without intent.

    I thought that before I even heard the name Bragg. Perhaps you are projecting the fact that you get all of your "news" from psycho sites like Breitbart and InfoWars and never consult primary sources. Do you know what a primary source is?

    A tiny bit of reading would prove you wrong there. And that isn't even what he's charged for.

    No, it just shows that your refusal to read the law matches your refusal to read what I actually type and just make up **** instead.
     
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    Are you able to see, recognize irony when it's a mirror image? Rhetorical....;)
     
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    Being a Republican doesn't give you the right to be above the law and be immune from all legal responsibility.
     

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