The view from the bunker.

Wouldn't one have to want to have that information refuted?

 

Ummmmm ... can you quote someone actually saying that? Someone on this website or someone of note? Or am I wasting my time asking for proof, as always?

 

Oh NO! Now you've done it!

You've used the H word, and opened the door for anyone who would love another excuse to beat that long-dead horse.

 

See the granny in the other thread, a year and a half and a 200k fine for a ten minute non violent walk unarmed through the capital building.

 

Dude that is the only reason I can come up with as to why any one with a functioning brain would accept at face value any of this blatantly ridiculous lawfare crap.

 

I don't care. what I tire of is the democrat attitude that the top one percent don't pay their fair share which is a bright and shining lie-and senile Joe told one hell of a whopper at his state of the union when he claimed "Billionaires only pay 8%" which was absolute bullshit. He based that on unrealized gains rather than income-they pay three times that on their income which is higher than almost any other group

 

Biden, took documents and had them

Trump, took documents and had them

Neither trump nor Biden are being charged with any crime because of this.

Biden, when asked for the documents back promptly gave them up to the appropriate authority's.

trump, when asked for the documents back did not give them up to the appropriate authority's but instead tried to keep them.

Biden is not being charged for keeping the documents because he gave them back when asked

trump is being charged for keeping the documents because he did not gave them back when asked

 

Biden took them when he was both a senator and a VP. His returning Stolen that I might add he illegally had in his possession for multiple decades does not make him not guilty it makes us less willing to throw the book at him for his theft of classified documents. Trump being president could legally possess classified documents taken on the last or any other day of his presidency. Ergo he can unlike Joe legally possess such documents whether archive or anyone else wants them. Returning them is not the issue If you rob a bank and later return the stolen money you are still guilty of bank robbery.

 

Which doesn't change the fact that
Biden, took documents and had them

Trump, took documents and had them

Neither trump nor Biden are being charged with any crime because of this.

Biden, when asked for the documents back promptly gave them up to the appropriate authority's.

trump, when asked for the documents back did not give them up to the appropriate authority's but instead tried to keep them.

Biden is not being charged for keeping the documents because he gave them back when asked

trump is being charged for keeping the documents because he did not gave them back when asked

 

Once more I ask: proof? You made claims, so the burden of proof is on you, right here in this thread. "See the granny in the other thread" doesn't cut it. I have no way to know what thread you mean, or who "granny" might be.

You completely ignored the other claims that I asked you to prove.

 

So no, you have nothing other than hyperbole. Duly noted.

 

Where is the starting point for a rational discussion with a person who holds a fantastical belief in the amorphous, nefarious "deep state?" Or the evidence free belief in the Big Lie?

Do so many threads on the board end in a frustrating manner, either by going off topic or never really getting to the heart of the subject matter, because there is no factual common ground with someone who thinks a criminal should be released from prison because their criminal act was in support of Dear Leader?

 

While we are observing the bunker view, WTH is the deal going on behind the Trump/James case bond? That thing is unraveling like loose laces...it looks like a weakly constructed fraud shell game.

 

Nonsense Trump had stuff that was legal for him to possess Biden had stuff that he could not legally possess. That is the difference not whether or not they gave it back when asked. The difference is that biden is guilty of theft Trump isn't.

 

Dude so you thing the cia, FBI, NSA and the other 16 spy agencies don't exist? That is what deep state refers to. No I think four years and thousands of dollars in fines is excessive for what in many cases is little more than a minor trespassing beef.

 

And neither are being charged for that.

 

Because biden is to old and senile at least thats what herr said in front of the camera.

 

Most of those arrested and charged or convicted are guilty of crimes that in any other scenario they would have been chastised for being in an authorized place and sent on their way, like the recent great grandmother who faces a couple of years in prison for walking through open doors and chatting with some of the Capitol Police. I am not familiar with each and every case (and of course there are so many one needs a scorecard) so I can't say there are none deserving criminal prosecution; I just don't know of any.

AFAIK Hunter was charged with lying on a gun purchase application which is a real crime though I would guess seldom gets people put in jail. It is just a little worse than making false assertions on the foreign representative form where everyone gets a slap on the wrist unless they are Trump supporters -- they go to jail. I'm not aware of any serious crime the albeit scumbag and son of a president committed.

 

You still haven't provided proof of that. If you can, please link to at least one case where a misdemeanor such as trespassing received a jail term longer than a couple of months and/or fines greater than $1,000.

 

After a lengthy deliberation that’s been rare for Capitol breach cases, Falcon resident Rebecca Lavrenz, known on social media as the “J6 Praying Grandma,” was convicted on all four federal misdemeanor charges for her participation in the Jan. 6, 2021, protest of the 2020 presidential election results in Washington, D.C.

The trial began March 25 in federal district court in the District of Columbia and ended after nearly 26 hours of deliberation, a 12-member jury found Lavrenz guilty of entering and remaining in a restricted building, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, disorderly conduct in a capitol building, and parading, demonstrating or picketing in a capitol.
https://gazette.com/news/crime/verd...cle_41e439fe-f0fc-11ee-9887-4fc0904851b5.html

As much as you need this to be about unjust punishment it was actually about grandma being given an opportunity to defend herself in front of a jury and found guilty.

 

Again there is one for 19 months and 200k in this very forum.

 

Which post? I'm not going to hunt through the whole thread.

Your claim was that people were sentenced to four year prison terms for trespassing. Either you can prove that, or you pulled it out of thin air.

 

I should have said in this forum.

 

I think iron fisted tyranny is self explanatory.

 

Anyone other the Jan 6 participants would have been nicely asked to stop and leave the premises. If they didn't leave they would have been politely escorted out. Happens all the time. But a Jan 6 participant gets arrested, charged, convicted and faces a year in prison and/or a $200,000 fine.