The world would accept Israel if they genuinely fulfilled the covenant.

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  1. Shins

    Shins New Member

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    "The chosen people" are not jews, hebrews, or any other sectarian group. The chosen people are any people who truly fulfil "gods" covenant of following the ten commandements.

    If Israel genuinely followed the ten commandements, it would be an undeniable shining beacon of virtue and rightousness and the world would eagerly accept it with open arms.

    This is "God's" (nature & cause+effect) promise for israel.

    the covenant IS NOT that hebrews or jews automatically have a right to Israel no matter what.

    In fact, scripture says jews are not to return to Israel until the messianic age.

    Therefore, political zionism (and talmud) are anti-jew - the true covenant regects talmudic judaism and zionism as blasphomy against the ten commandements.

    Once Israel is a beacon of virtue and the people of Israel truly fulfil the covenant, there will be peace, and the world will look to israel for guidance.

    THAT is who the "chosen people" are.
     
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    Ten commandments? Killing your kids if they disobey you? What absolute rubbish.
     
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    The Jews return to Israel had nothing to do with prophecy it was because they were continuously being slaughtered for their belief throughout the world.

    Israel wasn't even tops on their list of places to go and they actually were looking at other places in Africa. They just needed a place where they could come together for safety.
     
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    Kill your kids?

    the ten commandements say no such thing, i dont know where you got that?

    in fact they specifically say "thou shalt not kill"

    where did you get that idea?

    if Israel were a nation of true virtue and lead by example, people would be obliged to follow.

    even muslims would accept it readily.

    The problem is Israel wants all the benefits of the covenant, but aren't willing to fulfill the responsibilities and requirments.

    Its just laws of human nature - cause and effect. If isreal were truly rightous in virtue human nature woukd accept Isreal.

    one again, that is the true covenant.
     
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    But the return to Israel was contradictory to the jewish faith itself.

    It proves that zionism is political, not religous or even ethnic.

    in fact, zionism is anti-jewish!

    It destroys the prophecy and the jewish faith itself!

    As does talmud with all the anti-commandement stuff it says about the goy and gentiles.

    it seems to me Israel and talmudic judaism is more babylonian than actual true jewish?
     
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    When you've just lost 6 million of your people I think you can put your faith on hold for a little while. I'm sure God would understand.
     
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    I disagree.

    that then completely negates any legitimate claim the jews have to Israel, and makes them false jews.

    also, how is talmud any better than naziism?

    talmud is very supremacist.

    maybe everyone hates "jews" because they are often false and un-vitruous?

    i mean, hitler had his reasons right? he didnt just wake up one day and say "im going to wipe out the jews"

    it seems germany was also a victum of "jewish" (babylonian) betrayal?

    see: balfour declaration & post ww1 german economy.
     
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    Actually Hitler did just that. When he was in the hospital during world war 1 and heard the news of Germany's surrender he upset him so much that he decided right then and there that it wasn't the soldiers fault but that of the politicians. He then formulated in his mind that the Jews were the reason for it.

    He would later explain this in Mein Kompf but he literally came up with his plan on the spot.
     
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    Thou shalt honour they mother and father. What is the punishment for disobedience?
    Exodus 21:15-17 “And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death”. Exodus 21:17 “And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death”.
     
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    But jews (zionists) WERE the reason germany lost.

    not all jews of course, but Rothchild certainly when he made the balfour declaration.

    There was then an effort to get America into the war in which it had no real interest in fighting.

    as a result of america joining, germany lost the war, germany was offering peace terms prior.

    so german zionist Rothschild DID instigate germany's defeat!

    and it just so happens double crossing Rothschilds ended up with what they wanted.

    some also speculate hitler was actually a secret zionist with plans to install sympathy for the zionist effort, and tried to kill off only true orthodox jews.
     
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    Youre quoting exodus, not the ten commandements.

    it also say "shall surely be" which is not the same as "you shall"
     
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    I also forgot to mention that modern historic scolars ascribe the book of exodus to the time of babylonian captivity, not jewish orthodoxy.
     

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