The Xiaomi MX11, Most Automated Car, "One Every 67 Seconds"

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  1. Media_Truth

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    About 6 months ago, phone manufacturer, Xiaomi shocked the automobile industry with the unveiling of their SU7 luxury car, of which they have about a million preorders.

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    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/giga-casting-presses-automotive-industry-farshid-hesami-jmumf
    Xiaomi has revolutionized automotive manufacturing with its innovative "Xiaomi Hyper Die-Casting" technology, employing the T9100 cluster and their proprietary aluminum alloy, Xiaomi Titans Metal. This initiative significantly streamlines production by reducing the number of stamped parts and welds, thereby lowering the vehicle's weight and noise levels while enhancing its durability and longevity. This reduction includes 72 stamped parts and 840 welds, achieving a 17% weight reduction and a noise reduction of 2 decibels. These vehicles are designed to last over 2,000,000 kilometers (1.2 million miles), showcasing impressive durability

    The remarkable market reception of Xiaomi’s automotive innovation is underscored by the successful launch of the Xiaomi SU7, which saw orders exceed 88,898 units within 24 hours of its launch on March 28. This launch introduced five models, priced between 215,900 to 299,900 yuan ($30K to $41K).
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    The workshop's die-casting island cluster, with a clamping force of 9,100 tons per die-casting machine, can produce a car’s rear panel, which originally required 72 parts to be stamped and welded, in one go in about 100 seconds.
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    Additionally, Xiaomi Automobile's body shop has introduced over 700 robots, with key processes being 100% automated, achieving a comprehensive automation rate of 91%.

    If that wasn't enough, Xiaomi recently introduced the MX11.

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    The Electric Viking, Sam Evans, recently toured a Xiaomi factory in China, where they are manufacturing the MX11, which he claims is reminiscent to a Ferrari model, is assembled in 67 seconds using 9-ton giga-presses, and sells for $22K. He closes with, "How do you compete with that? You can't." Some of the numbers that Sam quotes are a little off from the Linked-In article, but they're close.

     
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    If true, it's quite a manufacturing achievement. But it doesn't address EV capability shortcomings.
     
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    These cars aren’t my cup of tea, but the range is between 400-500 miles, with fast-charging.

    in the US, the fastest charging stations are 300 kw. In China, they’ve doubled that.

    https://kr-asia.com/huawei-rolls-out-ultrafast-ev-chargers-in-china-taking-on-tesla

    Based on the assumptions used by Huawei for its 1 kilometer-per-second figure—an EV equipped with an 80-kilowatt-hour battery and a range of 600 kilometers—a full charge could theoretically be completed in about eight minutes. Actual charging times would vary depending on temperature and the battery’s remaining capacity.”
     
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    Range is the only perceived “shortcoming” with EVs. Not for the Chinese. Everything else (efficiency, affordability, quality, drivability, maintenance, longevity) are all advantage EV.
     
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    Range, towing, hauling, degraded performance in cold or heat.
     
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    If true.
     
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    I think if I was Porsche, Id sue for copywriter infringement. And the SUV looks to be a very lightly retouched lift from the Aston Martin... Just more intellectual property theft from the communists in China.
     
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    Nope. Towing hauling - simply decreased mileage. Same as ICEs. Cold and heat are addressed with the new batteries - advantage EV.
     
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    False twice. The difference in the deficits is too large to ignore -- or wish away.
     
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    Actually, the true theft occurred with the Gigapress. Idra, an Italian company was the first to market a Gigapress, and Tesla is using them on their Model Y. A Chinese company bought out Idra, and now China has companies making them bigger and better.
     
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    Keep wearing your 2023 blinders —- that’s how fast things are changing.
     
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    “Do not be so open-minded that your brains fall out.”
    ― G.K. Chesterton
     
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    Nice quote, but not applicable. I stand by my comments about whirlwind breakthroughs. If you read that LinkedIn article, almost every auto manufacturer is pursuing Gigapresses, and many have vehicles manufactured in part this way. Some have already abandoned the notion, because of expense and risk/reward. The smaller presse, which most invested in, can only do smaller parts. The 9-Gigaton press is larger, but they’re already going larger than that.
     
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    We shall see.
     
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    I know, you didn't read what I wrote, but not sure why you chose to post this anyway? The point was the obvious copywriter infringement from the designs of the vehicles who look remarkably similar to the Porsche and the Aston. The manufacturing technology wasn't a part of the conversation. But thanks for bringing up the topic as often, this is clearly also an issue. Intellectual property theft is often engaged within the borders of China. But here you are cheering for a vehicle that doesn't meet any of the current NHTSA regulations, won't meet EPA, or other regulations. The over achieving viking doesn't seem to want to address those limitations....
     
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    I read what you wrote, and I agree to some degree. However, a copy design can be different with just a few minor changes.

    But you probably didn’t watch the accompanying video. The Gigapress manufactured cars are far safer than assembly line cars.
     
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    Then I am sure you can produce the NHTSA crash testing data for them....
     
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    I don’t know about their testing status. They could be tested today. But I would bet a large sum of money that they get a 5/5.
     
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    It's a sucker bet. Let me know when it actually happens.
     
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    When compared to the European Euro NCAP, the NHTSA rating system lacks forward collision warning and automatic emergency braking systems, lane departure warning systems, driver monitoring systems, and other active and passive component designed to also protect pedestrians and bicyclists, according to NTSB.

    Chinese vehicles sell in Europe.

    Guessing that the USA is best at everything is a blunder.
     
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    Our Lexus has all those features.
     
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    If they run as well as they look then you better pop up those tariffs.
     
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    I’ll wait until someone takes one onto one of our infamous “corrugated dirt roads” here in Australia
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    There is a reason the “outback” is littered with broken down cars lols! Mind this lot would probably get it going again

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