The Zimmerman Death Wish ~ The Joe Horn 911 Call

he wasnt shot for just walking, stop lying and ignoring all the evidence of the situation. an altercation happened before Treyvon was shot that had Zimmerman beaten and bloodied. we dont know who threw the first punch or anything, its still under investigation.

 

Where's the pix of Zimmerman all bloody and scratched with a broken nose and generally looking all beat-up by a teenager weighing over a hundred lbs. less than him ?

All we ever see is a mug-shot of a thug-convict looking dude who you'd call the cops on if you saw 'em in your neighborhood ... and brandish a weapon to chase his azz out ... or make a citizens-arrest until the cops got there ...

 

Let me get this straight .... you're comparing a case where someone was witnessing a crime being commited to a kid on a street w/o a weapon and as far as anyone knows, was not commiting a crime?

Yup! Typical liberal logic.....

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Lr3DOqaSE&feature=player_embedded"]FULL Trayvon Martin 911 Call - Listen to Trayvon Martin Getting Shot - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Rf4G0JOOk&feature=player_embedded"]Witness in Trayvon Martin murder fingers police - YouTube[/ame]

no one that was an actual witness is giving any defense for Zimmerman.

nuff said.

 

It is not justifiable to shoot someone for walking anywhere. It is justifiable to shoot someone about to kill you.

We don't know if Martin was just walking and we don't know if he was about to kill Zimmerman. We know only that he was trespassing through a gated community, Zimmerman called it into 911, they advised him to wait until police arrived, and he chose to pursue. That pursuit ended in a violent altercation and a weapon was discharged.

 

That's one way to put it ... another way to put it is you got a pretty good idea how Zimmerman shot the kid ... I thought it important to hear how a shooting goes down all the while on 911 telling 911 you're about to pop caps in someones azz ... then do it ...

Kind of rare to catch the whole scenario recorded ...

 

What makes you think that Martin was trespassing? He obviously had left that community (his father's fiance's home) just a little while before to go to the 7/11, and was returning to that home to watch a NBA game. . .How do you call that trespassing?

Please show me ANYTHING that says Trayvon was trespassing!

 

um no, in the beginning and up until now the media has shown nothing but sweet pics of Treyvon making everyone think he was this tiny little boy when in fact the dude is 6'3'' and probably towers Zimmerman. the police report and even a witness are the evidence of a beat down, with the witness seeing Zimmerman on his back and yelling for help.

hell in a 9-1-1 call the father of martin even says the guy screaming for help is not his son, but its Zimmerman.

there were no mug shots or anything, the media aint showing the pics of what people are showing on here.

seriously, what is it like to look in the mirror and believe your own lies you are trying to make up?

nobody knows who started the fight, all we know is how it ended and so far that Zimmerman was getting his ass beat somewhere in the middle.

 

first of all Tryevons own father listened to the 911 call and he even said thats not his son screaming for help.

second of all

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfN4UzKHBjo"]Witness Says Trayvon Martin attacked Zimmerman - YouTube[/ame]

yeah there are witnesses who saw some of what goes on. heres some proof for you.

 

Look, I just asked for pix of a beat-up Zimmerman ... that would clear this all up ... no need to give me information you heard on Faux Noize ..

 

So. . . Martin was tall. . .AND SKINNY (therefore his nickname of "slim!")
He was (I've heard 6'2 and 6'3. . .) tall, and he was also at least 60 to 100 lbs lighter than Zimmerman. . . and he was on the phone with his girl friend. And he was not carrying a gun!

What IF Zimmerman pulled out his gun when he confronted Martin?

What if Martin, knowing he could not outrun a gun, decided his only chance (especially as a young Black man being confronted with what at least LOOKED like a WHITE THUG) was to grab the gun from Zimmerman. . .what if Martin hit Zimmermann on the nose . . .and Zimmerman fell backwards and hit his head on the concrete pathway (which would explain the small cut on the back of his head). . .what if they struggled, and, Zimmerman still holding his gun (I don't think he would have had a chance to pull it out of his pocket while being hit on the nose by Martin!) shot the kid full in the chest?

Doesn't that at least deserve a thorough investigation, rather than a "white wash?"

That is ALL reasonable people are asking for.

 

its in the police report and also statements from a witness who saw Zimmerman on his back getting beat up by Treyvon.

oh so since you dont have pics it didnt happen now? i guess since we dont have pics of Treyvons dead body then thats not real either eh?

and lastly Fox News didnt make the claim, a witness who saw it made the claim and Fox just interviewed him.

so please stop with your childish nonsense.

 

i agree it does deserve investigations both ways which is why i said we dont know what started the fight in the beginning or who threw the first punch.

for all we know Zimmerman could have pushed Treyvon, or Treyvon could have gotten a smart mouth and jacked Zimmerman, nobody knows.

but what we do know is the liberal media has made Zimmerman the guilty party well before trial, so ya might wanna talk to your own people about investigating before making a decision.

all we know right now is Zimmerman followed the kid, somewhere between there a fight broke out and in the end Zimmerman brandished a gun and killed Treyvon. right now there are a millions ways this could have went.

btw i love your racial undertone in "white wash" , very cute. lastly how do you know how much Treyvon or Zimmerman weigh?

 

The only problem with that testimony is that that witness did not see ALL of the altercation. . .he only saw it when both men were already on the ground. What happened before that? It is clear that Trayvon didn't attack Zimmerman from the back. . .but it is also clear that Zimmerman was determine to confront the kid. . .no matter what.

Who was acting in "self-defence" first? Zimmerman by shooting the kid whom he had followed and accosted without reason?

Or the kid hitting Zimmerman on the nose after being accosted and maybe roughed up by Zimmerman WITH A GUN?

 

dude i dont know how many times ive already made the point we dont know the whole picture. its not me coming to either conclusion like the left has already painted this as a hate crime.

dont look at me like im saying either is at fault, ive defended both parties in this case and sit on the fence as to what happened.

 

You mean. . ..like the misrepresentation of Martin as a frightening thug based on a FALSE picture that you cannot show is really his picture. .. because it is not?

Misrepresentation such as demonizing the 17 year old kid, because he is Black?

Race should have nothing to do with it. . .and I have seen plenty of misrepresentations coming from your corner in several threads!

 

Your own Faux Noize video ends with *the 1st cop on the scene characterizied the shooting as manslaughter and uneccessary killing to prevent an unlawful act*

This sounds bad ... hard to believe the Chief of Police didn't conduct the usual investigations ... and got away with sweeping this matter under the rug as a Last-Stand Castle-Keep No-Retreat Self-Defense shooting for so long ... and based on some supposed unknown eye-witness testimony ...

No wonder he quit.

 

The media is lying about trayvon just like they lied about sandra fluke. All they ever show is that pic of tray when he was like 12. This is backfiring on the press because the internet is exposing their lies.

 

ok and???? there are plot holes in the story and thats what im arguing. im not going either way with anything, im just going by what i know and have looked into and neither side has enough evidence to say what the verdict is.

you on the other hand just need this for race bait and to have something to go bash conservatives about.

im not looking at this investigation as a political tool, i want to know what went down.

 

You liberals are showing the false pic. All we see is the pic of tray in the red shirt when he was like 12. What a bunch of BS.

 

no they are misinterpreting about Treyvon as a whole. they show sweet innocent pics of a little boy when he was nothing of the such first of all. they went straight to making this a racial issue trying to make this a black vs. white thing and have it already in their mind and print that Zimmerman is guilty of a hate crime.

 

If it wasn't for the outcry made by "my people" (whomever you think that may be. . .I only belong to one group of people. . .the human race. And just in case you wonder. . . I am White!), the sordid "WHITE WASH"" would be over. . .and Zimmerman would be totally free to continue his profiling of young Black men and to pursue his "career" as a "wannabe" cop!

How many more "self-defence" killing could this guy have performed before someone asked questions?

If you really believe that an investigation is the right thing to do. . .why would you support "closing the case" without a full, unbiased investigation by authorities that do not have a history of bias in their community?

 

It is (a) political (tool) now ... I hear the 2012 GOP / Tea Bag Prez hopefuls have now remarked ... in fact I heard Noot weigh-in on it this morning ... but the mans' mind is gone and his ramble did nothing but further torment the candidates (positions) as usual ...

Jus '(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Wrong dear. . .I have posted a current picture of Trayvon (about 6 months old picture) to counteract the FALSE pictures of a FAKE Trayvon posted by Cessna in order to demonize Trayvon. So. . .I'll post this recent picture of Trayvon again . . .

http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o628/trayvonslimmmartin/trayvonrecent.jpg

 

um first of all and most importantly please state where i said to "close the case" or supported that in any way, im gonna give you a chance to either find that quote or even apologize for putting words in my mouth that i have not come close to saying.

secondly you are a liberal, it doesnt matter if you are white simply because a liberals favorite tactic is racism, anything to help the party.