Theoretical difficulties in seceding from a state

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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For example- a county or several counties decide to secede from a state and form a new state (as opposed to seceding from the Union).

    Do The People have the right to choose to do this (assume there is strong majority support in the seceding area, around 2/3)?

    Can FedGov or the state stop it (without military intervention)?

    How would state property (like state universities, state police stations, etc) be transferred?

    Would Electoral Votes be redistributed, and how?

    What other problems and potential solutions could there be?
     
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    no territory can secede from a state without the consent of 2/3 of the US states.

    so says the Constitution.

    however, I'd say if 60% of all registered voters vote, and they win by 60%, the territory should be allowed to form their own seperate state.

    but their should compensation to the original state for all govt. property/equipment, infrastructure that is given to the new state.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree, provided that compensation is calculated to account for the taxes that the people seceding paid into the infrastructure and equipment. Its likely that they (and previous generations) effectively already paid for it, or very nearly.
     
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    It would result in armed conflict like last time.
     
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    Last time it was states seceding from the Union. In this scenario, no one is seceding from the Union. Do you think FedGov is likely to send troops in just to keep a US state from splitting into two US states?

    Fedgov still gets its tax money and the US loses no land, people, power, influence or border. There isn't any economic, strategic or political reason for FedGov to intervene. As far as I can tell, anyway.
     
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    Yes because there is far more at stake than that, First of all they can't be in the union without a 2/3 vote by the states which means no representation in congress which means we can't tax them.
     

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