There is Evidence Mounting Against President Joe Biden

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I was thinking of this email: Robert.L.Peters@pci.gov, which you say is also a pseudonym for one Joe Biden. But all you are claiming is an allegation. It is possible, but so far, none of you have proven any of the emails were actually his. And if you look at the emails, none were involved in obtaining money or anything whatsoever. Since it is a possibility, the reason to use aliasas by any and all senior government officials include: to thward hackers and prevent spammers from clogging their inbox. So, it may not be illegal and anyone can have as many email addresses as they want. I personally have two. My personal email, and my Samsung email for my phone.
     
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    At this point the House Investigators have simply demanded unredacted emails from the Archives so that they could get to the bottom of this.

    'While vice president, Joe Biden used the pseudonyms “Robert L. Peters” and “Robin Ware” to communicate with staff members — leaving a paper trail of nearly 5,400 written records.'

    'Biden used the official account Robert.L.Peters@pci.gov as well as private email accounts registered to fake names. His then-aide John Flynn cc-d Hunter on 10 emails containing his dad’s daily schedule between May 18 and June 15, 2016, prior disclosures show.'

    'Subject: Friday Schedule Card
    From: "Flynn, John S. EOP/OVP" john_s_flynn@ovp.eop.gov
    To: "Peters, Robert L." Robert.L.Peters@pci.gov
    CC: "Hunter Biden" hbiden@rosemontseneca.com
    Date: 2016-05-26 22:08
    Attachments: 5.27.16 Friday Schedule Card.docx
    Boss--8:45am prep for 9am phone call with Pres Poroshenko. Then we're off to Rhode Island for infrastructure event and then Wilmington for UDel commencement. Nate will have your draft remarks delivered later tonight or with your press clips in the morning. Respectfully, John 202-503-5883 >'

    EOP = Executive Office President
    OVP = Office Vice President
    Boss = Bribed Joe Biden

    But, by all means continue, I'm enjoying your dewy eyed wonder, as naive as a newborn fawn act.
    Date/Time is diplayed as UTC -03:00
     
  3. StillBlue

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    Hunter's tax problems occurred while his drug addiction had peaked and after his father had left office and said he would not run for president. Yes, he was making more than the average Harvard law grad but not much above average. Not surprising since he clearly had great name recognition and a wealthy, no longer in office, father. The taxes were paid with a high penalty and the IRS accepted. Pretty standard. Ironically, he's paid far more on his $4 million income that a certain billionaire we all know but that's another issue.
    That leaves the gun charge. Less than 1% of people caught falsifying their permit app are even charged in court and only half of those get convicted and none of them serve time for it. He agreed to serve probation which is about as severe a penalty as possible, certainly as ever issued. But some are outraged. Ironically the NRA is put in a position of many of their staunchest supporters are demanding harsher penalties which would have to be applied to the other 99%. Not good for the NRA.

    All this ranks right up there with impeachment hearings without even a crime identified. At the same time they can't even get a bill for the budget presented let alone passed. LET THE SHOW GO ON! YA TA DA TA DIDDLY DA TA.
     
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    Just to help you out. With their incomes investing $50K a year is easy. If they aren't multi millionaires after 12 years they are very poor investors.
     
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    Nothing says "nothing to hide" quite like multiple shell corporations tied to the Biden family...
     
  6. Alwayssa

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    unredacted emails do not prove a damn thing. Since they have the emails already, the only information is the ISP address, which may or may not indicate who the actual email belongs to.

    Second, the emails you are showing does not indicate who the email belongs to. Yes, he had those records, but the bulk of the email is business-related, nothing more. So, he indicates a phone call, and then off to Rhode Island. Sounds like typical business, and nothing more. And this still does not prove anything about Joe Biden taking money here.

    Another post fail by you.
     
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    This is where you are wrong. Shell companies are quite common. Trump has them, mutinational corporations have them. Large corps have them. Even small companies have them from time to time.
     
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    Nor to the hundreds of the T**** family. I wonder how many that they have in China?
     
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    So but Trump, is the best excuse you can come up with?
     
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    It's not an excuse. Were we to find one being used illegally we'd act on it. As we have not we aren't playing "yeah but what about". Rich people have these as a matter of coarse. Could they be used for illegal activities? Certainly. Are any of these? Nothing shown us says so it's simply their mere existence that is being claimed as at least if not actual proof of a crime, An unknown crime.
     
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    Prove it..... let's compare the Trump LLC's and the Biden Family LLC's.
     
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    One answers a question one does not prove a question.
     
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    Well, now we know he didn't play a role, in part due to Devon Archer's sworn testimony. If there was evidence he played a role the author of the hit piece would not have used the word "likely." Those kinds of equivocating words are commonly found in the language congressional Repubs, and writers, use because they know they just don't have it. Because there is no "it" to have.
     
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    Never mind Biden not having been charged... he hasn't even been ACCUSED of anything illegal.

    And consider the fact that fabricating accusations is something Republicans are good at. They did it with Obama, they did it with Hillary, ... So why can't they even SAY what illegal action Joe Biden is SUPPOSED to have committed.
     
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    How was it fabricating accusations? Hillary had a server in her closet which was used to transmit, receive and store classified information. The server was not certified to handle classified information and the server was not protected as required by security regulations. The FBI report said she was extremely careless. How is that being extremely careless. Did she somehow accidently leave that server in her closet and accidently fail to protect it?
     
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    You keep claiming we are 'failing' but it's Biden who is almost 12 points behind where he was in the last cycle, and it's Trump who is ahead of where he was in the last cycle. You're wish-casting.

    Ukraine Business Deals: Did Hunter Biden Lie to His Own Memoir To Protect Bribed Dad?
     
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    Yeah yeah yeah... I've heard the story. Payed TOO much attention to it, when it was alive.. A waste of time because Republicans had control of the Presidency, both chambres of Congress, the Supreme Court, fired all previous and appointed all NEW U.S. Attorneys, fired the FBI director and appointed their own....charging Hillary was probably the most repeated campaign promise, and yet...

    And Republicans didn't even complain much..

    I would say either she was an innocent dove, or Republicans in power received part of ... whatever income she obtained from it. I don't think they're smart enough to do the latter...

    So don't even bother... Not interested....
     
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    She was not innocent. The FBI IG report laid it out.
    I have wondered why she was not prosecuted. I believe I understand. It would be perceived as political retribution and would just start a stampede which accomplishes nothing in the long run. And that is exactly what has happened.

    Sometimes there is no ideal solution. Sending her to jail would send a warning to others. However, it might cause a stampede to do the same to others.

    Hilary's security violations were potentially more damaging to national security than Trump's. Her server was likely hacked according to the FBI. They could not say for sure because it was not designed to detect someone trying to hack it. Just about any nerd thousands of miles away could get access. While with Trump's they would have to get access to those rooms with the secret service guarding the place. Not knowing is the worse kind security compromise because there is almost no way to mitigate it.
     
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    Comer to subpoena Joe Biden "mystery" corporation for records on
    $10M in 2017 revenue.

    'then-Vice President Joe Biden’s corporation received the $10 million in 2017, a year that corresponds with elaborate webs of wire transactions and Joe Biden’s departure from the White House. The year 2017 also encompasses the timeframe an FBI informant alleged Burisma Holdings bribed Joe Biden with $5 million.'

    '“The money they refer to was funneled through the CelticCapri LLC, Joe Biden’s LLC that he supposedly used to receive speaking fees and sell his book,” Comer told Fox News. “His speaking fees and books don’t add up to what the total was he disclosed on taxes.”'

    “So that’s an LLC account. It wasn’t a shell company — that was a real LLC account with more earnings in there than what we can find. So that is an account we plan to subpoena as we follow the money,” Comer said.

    'Biden Denies Bribery Allegations, Claims He Is Not Interfering with DOJ'

    Bribed Joe is known for being crooked.

    “It would shock no one in this town if Joe Biden received millions of dollars from selling out the country in a bribery scheme and then hid that money in shady shell companies,” Rep. Eli Crane (R-AZ)

    'Joe Biden and his family of running “a very organized crime ring,” and a majority of voters, 51 percent, believe Joe Biden committed a crime with Hunter Biden. Thirty-six percent say he did not.

    Look for that 51% to grow and that 36 to shrink a bit.
     
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    It's happening for real this time, guys! We're super cereal!
     
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    'Moving the Goal Posts on the Hunter Biden Investigation
    The president’s defense keeps changing as new evidence emerges.'

    Adjusting
    their lies.

    'House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer’s release of evidence of family payments to Joe Biden are a problem for the White House, no matter the spin.'

    'Mr. Comer has produced images of two checks made out to Joe Biden, both drawn from an account held by his brother James and sister-in-law Sara. Both entangle Joe in his family’s sordid financial dealings and undercut his claims that he knew nothing. It’s a far cry from Candidate Biden’s claim in 2019 that there was an “absolute wall” between himself and the Biden family business.'

    We told you that he was lying when he said it.

    'The first check to Joe was written on Sept. 3, 2017, although the money trail begins earlier with his son Hunter. In the first half of 2017, Hunter and business associates negotiated a joint company with CEFC, a Shanghai-based energy company linked to the Chinese government. One email from a Hunter associate that discussed equity stakes suggested 10% of the joint venture be held by Hunter for “the big guy.”'

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
    (https://www.wsj.com/articles/moving...ily-election-939b71f9?mod=opinion_featst_pos2)
     
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    Let's see it.
     
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    They scoured through boxes of records and they finally found a check made out to Joe Biden,.

    But all it was was a check made out to Joe as repayment for a loan he made to James Biden. says so right on the check.

    it was made in 2018 when Joe was not VP nor President, .

    Comer wrote a letter to Siskel, White House council, stating:

    If Joe Biden did personally loan James Biden an amount that was later repaid by the $200,000 check, please provide the loan documents, including the loan payment, loan agreement, and any other supporting loan documentation

    The problem with that request is that a father's loan to a son would rarely have 'loan documents, loan agreements and 'supporting documentation'.
    The absence of those items does not prove it was not a loan. I've loan several thousand dollars to my sisters, a few times, got paid back, but we never had 'loan documents'. My sister isn't a 'client' nor am I a 'bank'.

    However, James Biden should be able to document his receiving the loan, via deposits to wherever he deposited the money.
     
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