Thieving Israeli soldiers not prosecuted

so you're saying all of the genetic studies in the links, are lies?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J-M267#Distribution

 

all of these genetic studies, are lies?

Journals[edit]
Moran, CN; Scott RA; Adams SM; Warrington SJ; Jobling MA; Wilson RH; Goodwin WH; Georgiades E; Wolde B; Pitsiladis YP. (Nov 2004). "Y chromosome haplogroups of elite Ethiopian endurance runners". Hum Genet. 115 (6): 492–7. doi:10.1007/s00439-004-1202-y. PMID 15503146.
Abu-Amero, Khaled K; Hellani, Ali; González, Ana M; Larruga, Jose M; Cabrera, Vicente M; Underhill, Peter A (2009). "Saudi Arabian Y-Chromosome diversity and its relationship with nearby regions". BMC Genetics 10 (1): 59. doi:10.1186/1471-2156-10-59. PMC 2759955. PMID 19772609.
Alvarez, Luis; Santos, Cristina; Montiel, Rafael; Caeiro, Blazquez; Baali, Abdellatif; Dugoujona, Jean-Michel; Aluja, Maria Pilar (2009). "Y-chromosome variation in South Iberia: insights into the North African contribution". American Journal of Human Biology 21 (3): 407–9. doi:10.1002/ajhb.20888. PMID 19213004.
Arredi, B; Poloni, E; Paracchini, S; Zerjal, T; Fathallah, D; Makrelouf, M; Pascali, V; Novelletto, A; Tyler-Smith, C (2004). "A predominantly neolithic origin for Y-chromosomal DNA variation in North Africa". American Journal of Human Genetics 75 (2): 338–45. doi:10.1086/423147. PMC 1216069. PMID 15202071.
Balanovsky, O.; Dibirova, K.; Dybo, A.; Mudrak, O.; Frolova, S.; Pocheshkhova, E.; Haber, M.; Platt, D.; et al. (2011). "Parallel evolution of genes and languages in the Caucasus region". Molecular Biology and Evolution 28 (10): 2905–20. doi:10.1093/molbev/msr126. PMC 3355373. PMID 21571925.
Battaglia, Vincenza; Fornarino, Simona; Al-Zahery, Nadia; Olivieri, Anna; Pala, Maria; Myres, Natalie M; King, Roy J; Rootsi, Siiri; et al. (2009). "Y-chromosomal evidence of the cultural diffusion of agriculture in southeast Europe". European Journal of Human Genetics 17 (6): 820–30. doi:10.1038/ejhg.2008.249. PMC 2947100. PMID 19107149.
Cadenas, Alicia M; Zhivotovsky, Lev A; Cavalli-Sforza, Luca L; Underhill, Peter A; Herrera, Rene J (200. "Y-chromosome diversity characterizes the Gulf of Oman". European Journal of Human Genetics 16 (3): 374–86. doi:10.1038/sj.ejhg.5201934. PMID 17928816.
Cann, H. M. (2002). "A Human Genome Diversity Cell Line Panel". Science 296 (5566): 261–262. doi:10.1126/science.296.5566.261b. PMID 11954565.
Capelli, Cristian; Onofri, Valerio; Brisighelli, Francesca; Boschi, Ilaria; Scarnicci, Francesca; Masullo, Mara; Ferri, Gianmarco; Tofanelli, Sergio; et al. (2009). "Moors and Saracens in Europe: estimating the medieval North African male legacy in southern Europe". European Journal of Human Genetics 17 (6): 848–52. doi:10.1038/ejhg.2008.258. PMC 2947089. PMID 19156170.
Chiaroni, J; King, Roy J; Underhill, Peter A (200. "Correlation of annual precipitation with human Y-chromosome diversity and the emergence of Neolithic agricultural and pastoral economies in the Fertile Crescent". Antiquity 82 (316): 281–289. doi:10.1017/s0003598x00096800.
Chiaroni, Jacques; King, Roy J; Myres, Natalie M; Henn, Brenna M; Ducourneau, Axel; Mitchell, Michael J; Boetsch, Gilles; Sheikha, Issa; et al. (2010). "The emergence of Y-chromosome haplogroup J1e among Arabic-speaking populations". European Journal of Human Genetics 18 (3): 348–353. doi:10.1038/ejhg.2009.166. PMC 2987219. PMID 19826455.
Cinnioğlu, Cengiz; King, Roy; Kivisild, Toomas; Kalfoğlu, Ersi; Atasoy, Sevil; Cavalleri, Gianpiero L; Lillie, Anita S.; Roseman, Charles C; et al. (2004). "Excavating Y-chromosome haplotype strata in Anatolia". Human Genetics 114 (2): 127–148. doi:10.1007/s00439-003-1031-4. PMID 14586639.
Di Gaetano, Cornelia; Cerutti, Nicoletta; Crobu, Francesca; Robino, Carlo; Inturri, Serena; Gino, Sarah; Guarrera, Simonetta; Underhill, Peter A; et al. (2009). "Differential Greek and northern African migrations to Sicily are supported by genetic evidence from the Y chromosome". European Journal of Human Genetics 17 (1): 91–99. doi:10.1038/ejhg.2008.120. PMC 2985948. PMID 18685561.
El-Sibai, Mirvat; Platt, Daniel E.; Haber, Marc; Xue, Yali; Youhanna, Sonia C.; Wells, R. Spencer; Izaabel, Hassan; Sanyoura, May F.; et al. (2009). "Geographical structure of the Y-chromosomal genetic landscape of the Levant: a coastal-inland contrast". Annals of Human Genetics 73 (Pt 6): 568–581. doi:10.1111/j.1469-1809.2009.00538.x. PMC 3312577. PMID 19686289.
Ennafaa, Hajer; Fregel, Rosa; Khodjet-El-Khil, Houssein; González, Ana M; Mahmoudi, Hejer Abdallah El; Cabrera, Vicente M; Larruga, José M; Benammar-Elgaaïed, Amel (2011). "Mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosome microstructure in Tunisia". Journal of Human Genetics 56 (10): 734–741. doi:10.1038/jhg.2011.92. PMID 21833004.
Fadhlaoui-Zid, Karima; Martinez-Cruz, Begoña; Khodjet-El-Khil, Houssein; Mendizabal, Isabel; Benammar-Elgaaïed, Amel; Comas, David (2011). "Genetic structure of Tunisian ethnic groups revealed by paternal lineages". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 146 (2): 271–280. doi:10.1002/ajpa.21581. PMID 21915847.
Flores, Carlos; Maca-Meyer, Nicole; Larruga, Jose M.; Cabrera, Vicente M.; Karadsheh, Naif; Gonzalez, Ana M. (2005). "Isolates in a corridor of migrations: a high-resolution analysis of Y-chromosome variation in Jordan". Journal of Human Genetics 50 (9): 435–441. doi:10.1007/s10038-005-0274-4. PMID 16142507.
Fregel, Rosa; Gomes, Verónica; Gusmão, Leonor; González, Ana M; Cabrera, Vicente M; Amorim, António; Larruga, Jose M (2009). "Demographic history of Canary Islands male gene-pool: replacement of native lineages by European". BMC Evolutionary Biology 9 (1): 181. doi:10.1186/1471-2148-9-181. PMC 2728732. PMID 19650893.
Di Giacomo, F.; Luca, F.; Popa, L. O.; Akar, N.; Anagnou, N.; Banyko, J.; Brdicka, R.; Barbujani, G.; et al. (2004). "Y chromosomal haplogroup J as a signature of the post-neolithic colonization of Europe". Human Genetics 115 (5): 357–371. doi:10.1007/s00439-004-1168-9. PMID 15322918.
Gonçalves, Rita; Freitas, Ana; Branco, Marta; Rosa, Alexandra; Fernandes, Ana T.; Zhivotovsky, Lev A.; Underhill, Peter A.; Kivisild, Toomas; Brehm, Antonio (2005). "Y-chromosome lineages from Portugal, Madeira and Açores record elements of Sephardim and Berber ancestry". Annals of Human Genetics 69 (Pt 4): 443–454. doi:10.1111/j.1529-8817.2005.00161.x. PMID 15996172.
Hammer, Michael F.; Behar, Doron M.; Karafet, Tatiana M.; Mendez, Fernando L.; Hallmark, Brian; Erez, Tamar; Zhivotovsky, Lev A.; Rosset, Saharon; Skorecki, Karl (2009). "Extended Y chromosome haplotypes resolve multiple and unique lineages of the Jewish priesthood". Human Genetics 126 (5): 707–717. doi:10.1007/s00439-009-0727-5. PMC 2771134. PMID 19669163.
Hassan, Hisham Y.; Underhill, Peter A.; Cavalli-Sforza, Luca L.; Ibrahim, Muntaser E. (200. "Y-chromosome variation among Sudanese: restricted gene flow, concordance with language, geography, and history". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 137 (3): 316–323. doi:10.1002/ajpa.20876. PMID 18618658.

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all of these studies, are also lies?


Karafet, T. M.; Mendez, F. L.; Meilerman, M. B.; Underhill, Peter A.; Zegura, S. L.; Hammer, M. F. (200. "New binary polymorphisms reshape and increase resolution of the human Y chromosomal haplogroup tree". Genome Research 18 (5): 830–838. doi:10.1101/gr.7172008. PMC 2336805. PMID 18385274. See also Supplementary Material.
King, R; Underhill, Peter A (2002). "Congruent distribution of Neolithic painted pottery and ceramic figurines with Y-chromosome lineages". Antiquity 76 (293): 707–714. doi:10.1017/s0003598x00091158.
King, R. J.; Özcan, S. S.; Carter, T.; Kalfoğlu, E.; Atasoy, S.; Triantaphyllidis, C.; Kouvatsi, A.; Lin, A. A.; et al. (200. "Differential Y-chromosome Anatolian influences on the Greek and Cretan Neolithic". Annals of Human Genetics 72 (Pt 2): 205–214. doi:10.1111/j.1469-1809.2007.00414.x. PMID 18269686.
Kujanová, Martina; Pereira, Luísa; Fernandes, Verónica; Pereira, Joana B.; Černý, Viktor (2009). "Near eastern neolithic genetic input in a small oasis of the Egyptian Western Desert". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 140 (2): 336–46. doi:10.1002/ajpa.21078. PMID 19425100.
Luis, J; Rowold, D; Regueiro, M; Caeiro, B; Cinnioğlu, C; Roseman, C; Underhill, P; Cavalli-Sforza, L; Herrera, R (2004). "The Levant versus the Horn of Africa: evidence for bidirectional corridors of human migrations". The American Journal of Human Genetics 74 (3): 532–544. doi:10.1086/382286. PMC 1182266. PMID 14973781.. (Also see Errata)
Msaidie, Said; Ducourneau, Axel; Boetsch, Gilles; Longepied, Guy; Papa, Kassim; Allibert, Claude; Yahaya, Ali Ahmed; Chiaroni, Jacques; Mitchell, Michael J (2011). "Genetic diversity on the Comoros Islands shows early seafaring as major determinant of human biocultural evolution in the Western Indian Ocean". European Journal of Human Genetics 19 (1): 89–94. doi:10.1038/ejhg.2010.128. PMC 3039498. PMID 20700146.
Nebel, A; Filon, D; Weiss, DA; Weale, M; Faerman, M; Oppenheim, A; Thomas, MG (2000). "High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews". Hum Genet. 107 (6): 630–641. doi:10.1007/s004390000426. PMID 11153918.
Nebel, A; Filon, D; Brinkmann, B; Majumder, P; Faerman, M; Oppenheim, A (2001). "The Y chromosome pool of Jews as part of the genetic landscape of the Middle East". American Journal of Human Genetics 69 (5): 1095–1112. doi:10.1086/324070. PMC 1274378. PMID 11573163.
Nebel, A; Landau-Tasseron, E; Filon, D; Oppenheim, A; Faerman, M (2002). "Genetic evidence for the expansion of Arabian tribes into the Southern Levant and North Africa". American Journal of Human Genetics 70 (6): 1594–1596. doi:10.1086/340669. PMC 379148. PMID 11992266.

 

The document of the Mandate was never concluded and also the UN never ended it, thus, Article 80 is still relevent to the document of the Mandate.

And if Israel will annex all of the West Bank to her, then still it will not be all of "Palestine", since all of "Palestine" also include Jordan. So you can relax.

There is legal basis and it is the document of the Manadate that was never concluded (the British Mandate was concluded, when the document wasnt. Even the UN didnt conclude it.).

Not at all. It is an historical fact and not an opinion that the Brits gave back the responsibility over the document of the Mandate back to the UN in the summer of 1947.

The Brits announced that they trasferred the responsibility to "solve the issue" to the UN, when until then the responsibility was in British hands under the document of the Mandate, and from then on, the responsibility to "solve the issue" is in the hands of the UN under the document of the Mandate that was valid in December 1947. Hence, the responsibility was in the UN hands, and since the UN never terminated the document of the Mandate, then this document is still valid thanks to Article 80 of the UN Charter.

No, the document of the Mandate is not part of the British Mandate. The British Mandate was created because of the document of the Mandate, but since the Brits gave the responsibility over it back to the UN, then the document of the Mandate is in their hand to fulfill, and thus until they would announce that the document of the Mandate is no longer valid due to signed agreements between Israel and the Arabs, or due to an UNGA resolution that would be accepted by the two sides, then the document of the Mandate would be still valid under the protection of Article 80.

I never used UNGA resolution to support my claims. UNGA resolution was mentioned in the UNSCOP document that Ronstar provided to support his claims. Thus if you say the UNGA resolutions have no relevence to any claims because it is not binding, then you basically support me in what I said to Ronstar regarding the UNSCOP document that mentioned UNGA 181.

So if you say that we've been through this already, then please go back and re-read the comments where I replied to you regarding these claims of your aobut this subject.

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No. I said:
So according to you a rendom man that possbily write this thing in Wiki, has more credibility in this field then an exeprt on the field?

And why I asked that? Because all of it was used n Wiki which wrote a rendom person. And if you would have some claims about it, then I will say something that I already wrote earlier:
And this rendom man collected all that, read it with out any basic understanding in this filed, and then drew conclusions as he like.
So once again, according to you a rendom man that possbily write this thing in Wiki, has more credibility in this field then an exeprt on the field? and If you think that an exeprt man wrote it, please show me where in WIki, is written his name.

 

the Wikipedia article is written by many registered Wikipedia authors, who had the article fact-checked many times, and provided legitimate comprehensive genetic studies as sources for the information.

YOU...provided a little Youtube video, with make believe historians, and Rabbis.

 

So does the article of Wiki that you provided wrote anywhere the name of the person that wrote this think in Wiki?

 

even better, is lists all of the genetic studies where all the info comes from.

all of these genetic studies are legitimate and true.

your silly little Youtube videos has some idiotic Rabbis and crackpot historians with a political agenda.

 

And this rendom man collected all that, read it with out any basic understanding in this filed, and then drew conclusions as he like.
So once again, according to you a rendom man that possbily write this thing in Wiki, has more credibility in this field then an exeprt on the field? and If you think that an exeprt man wrote it, please show me where in WIki, is written his name.

 

MOD EDIT - Rule 3 prove it.

MOD EDIT - Rule 3

 

To prove it? I dont need to, it is shown in the link to Wiki. Once Wiki didnt mentioned the name of the person that wrote it, then it makes the person a random one.

MOD EDIT - Rule 3/ reply to deleted

 

there are many authors of the article.

ALL of the information in the article has many sources from legitimate thorough genetic studies.

but you say the genetic studies, are all lies.

Just because they conflict with your religious/political agenda.

 

"The document of the Mandate was never concluded and also the UN never ended it, thus, Article 80 is still relevent to the document of the Mandate."
"There is legal basis and it is the document of the Manadate that was never concluded (the British Mandate was concluded, when the document wasnt. Even the UN didnt conclude it.)."
The Brits announced that they trasferred the responsibility to "solve the issue" to the UN, when until then the responsibility was in British hands under the document of the Mandate, and from then on, the responsibility to "solve the issue" is in the hands of the UN under the document of the Mandate that was valid in December 1947. Hence, the responsibility was in the UN hands, and since the UN never terminated the document of the Mandate, then this document is still valid thanks to Article 80 of the UN Charter."
the document of the Mandate is not part of the British Mandate. The British Mandate was created because of the document of the Mandate, but since the Brits gave the responsibility over it back to the UN, then the document of the Mandate is in their hand to fulfill, and thus until they would announce that the document of the Mandate is no longer valid due to signed agreements between Israel and the Arabs, or due to an UNGA resolution that would be accepted by the two sides, then the document of the Mandate would be still valid under the protection of Article 80."
Not at all. It is an historical fact and not an opinion that the Brits gave back the responsibility over the document of the Mandate back to the UN in the summer of 1947."

It's not an historic fact, the historic fact is that after failing to come up with a way to achieve independence for Palestine that satisfied both Jewish and Arabs sides they referred the issue to the UN so they could recommend a solution. They recommended partition plan the Arabs rejected it, the British unwilling to impose a solution not supported by both sides announced end of mandate the next month, the day of the mandate ending the Jewish state of Israel was proclaimed fulfilling goal of mandate. You are making it up that the mandate document was transferred to the UN you haven't quoted any sources saying that mandate document was transferred to UN. The document of the mandate(official title for it is "The Palestinian Mandate" so don't use bs claim that document is not part of mandate especially when you say "The British Mandate was created because of the document of the Mandate") as it laid down rules and responsibility of Britain under the mandate, the mandate document also describes goal of and purpose of mandate a Jewish home in Palestine as stated in Balfour declaration which state of Israel fulfills.

"So if you say that we've been through this already, then please go back and re-read the comments where I replied to you regarding these claims of your aobut this subject"
I don't need to go back and reread the comments since I have already refuted it numerous times so again this still applies and no matter how many times you say please go back and re-read those comments what I wrote below still applies.

We have been through already your anonymous witness has been refuted by demographic and history experts(pro Israel ones too). For part to majority of Palestinian descended from Jews and Christians residing in Palestine at time of Islamic conquest they haven't been Jewish for over 800 years at least if not much longer, if they were Jewish they would be eligible for automation Israeli citizenship under Israel's right of return(by your logic they also have a right of return since according to you they are Jews and Israel is a home for Jews again you don't use basic logic) law. Some Muslims and Christians do serve in the Israeli army however most of them don't. Both of them aren't conscripted into the army like Druze(who also have a blood covenant dating back to war of independence when they sided with the Israelis) and Circassions(North Caucasus group displaced from the Caucasus during Russian conquest of Caucasus in 19th century). Most Israeli Arabs except for Druze vote for United Joint List which includes Arab nationalists, communists, and Islamist all ideologies that have caused a lot of harm. Given also state of human rights in Arab countries and how they treat women, homosexuals, minorities etc it would not good to have a party that represents that to be the governing party. The Druze being patriotic one of their religious beliefs and also persecuted by Muslims since it was viewed heretical sect of Islam know what it's like to be a persecuted minority, most of them also don't vote for Joint List which again is a coalition of dangerous ideologies that also nearly left Meretz to die. Again annexing West Bank would guarantee Joint List would be the governing(and given that most demographic experts predict Arabs would reach majority if Israel annexed West Bank Joint List or Joint List like party would change from having large plurality in Knesset to majority in Knesset) party due to 39.47% of population being Israeli Arab(note that Palestinians in West Bank would probably vote for Joint List or similar party as Joint List includes Arab nationalists and Islamists which would be appeal to them with even secular PLO proposed a Constitution in 2003 for a Palestinian state that in article 7 stated principles of the Islamic shari`a are a main source for legislation) not including Druze who already don't vote for Joint List anyways. This is something both right who favor one state solution like Reuven Rivlin and extreme left who support one state solution completely ignore and have this fantasy that if Israel annexed entire West Bank tensions between the two populations(when chief rabbi for extreme settlements of Kiryat Arbya Itamar and Yitzhar who endorse King's Torah which kills for non Jews including children to be killed and then people are shocked when it translates into action like fire bombing Palestinian homes in the middle of the night) and that Israel which is the Israel within green lines that is democratic and shares Western values like respect of women(for most part respect for women haredi respect for women is not the same as secular Jews for example all the haredi parties have never put a women on their election lists for knesset and in areas of personal status like marriage it comes under respective religious communities laws which does often discriminate against women this applies to both Jews and Muslims in Israel as Jews come under Jewish religions law for marriage and Muslims come under Sharia law for marriages both which for example makes it difficult for women to get a divorce while for a man it's much easier, there also is a work around to this as marriages done abroad are recognized including gay marriage) and homosexuals would translate to the Palestinian society and society within green lines Israel would stay the same despite governing party changing to a coalition that includes Communists, Islamists, and Arab nationalists. This also makes the claim by extreme left and right like Reuven Rivlin the claim that Israel would be a democracy if Israel annexed West Bank suspect as while civil liberties would undoubtedly improve for Palestinians in West Bank since everyone would become citizens there would be a good chance that civil liberties for everyone in Israel within green lines both Jewish and non Jewish would suffer."
http://www.palestinianbasiclaw.org/basic-law/2003-permanent-constitution-draft
http://imeu.org/article/state-sanctioned-incitement-israels-extremist-rabbis

 

what have we learned so far?

-The Mandate for Palestine is still active & valid, even though the UN concluded it in 1948.

-The West Bank is not under the Geneva Conventions and the 1907 Hague Regulations, even though the entire international community and the Israeli Supreme Court says it is.

-85% of the Arabs in the West Bank are crypto-Jews, even though there is no evidence that even 1% of them secretly practise Judaism and possession of the J-M267 haplotype is not proof of Jewish ancestry.

-races don't exist.

 

So according to you a rendom man that possbily write this thing in Wiki, has more credibility in this field then an exeprt on the field?

And why I asked that? Because all of it was used n Wiki which wrote a rendom person. And if you would have some claims about it, then I will say something that I already wrote earlier:
And this rendom man collected all that, read it with out any basic understanding in this filed, and then drew conclusions as he like.
So once again, according to you a rendom man that possbily write this thing in Wiki, has more credibility in this field then an exeprt on the field? and If you think that an exeprt man wrote it, please show me where in WIki, is written his name.

 

The Brits gave the responsibility over the documen of the Mandate, not to find a solution for Arabs and Jews, but to fulfill what was been written in the Mandate, and after they failed to fulfilled it they gave the responsiblity over it back to the UN in th summer of 1947.

The partiotion plan was a violation of the document of the Mandate since the document of the Mandate never talked about giving a state to the Arabs. The document of the Mandate only talked about that a natioal home should be reconstitute for the Jews and that only the civil rights of the non-Jewish communities would be respected.

It is an hisorical fact.

The document of the Mandate laid down the rules and responsibility of the Mandatory power, which was agreed by the League of Nations that it will be Britian because of Balfour Declaration and because of Sykes-Picot Agreement. But at the same time, if the Brits gave back the responsibility to the UN, then the document of the Mandate cant in the responsibility of the Brits, but in the responsibility of the UN, and it is up for the UN to find a new Mandatory power to enforce the document of the Mandate, and since the UN hasnt done it, then the responsibility over the document of the Mandate is in the hand of the UN.

You didnt refute anything that I wrote so far.

If you want a proper reply to what you wrote to me (about that DellaPergola) then you can find it in my previous comments. I'm not here to repeat every word that I'm writing here thousand of times. Esspecialy when it is in the same thread.

And the point of all that information is....? Sorry but I got lost with all of what you have written here beucase you are jumping from one to another like a rabbit (you are starting to talk about the Druze but then jump to Kyriat Arba, and then to how the PLO wanted to treat the Druze in 2003).

 

seriously bro? repeating the same comment over and over and over again?

 

My topic has been well-and-truly derailed. I will start another when an Israeli soldier is prosecuted for burglary. Do not hold you breath.

 

Well, I'm only replyingto your comments. So if you want me to stop repeating myself then you need to stop repeating yourself.

 

i never repeat myself.

 

So when you wrote:

And so on.
As you can see this is only a repeating over and over and over on what you said already.

 

that's because you refuse to actually respond to my comments.

you simply repeat the same thing, over and over again

 

As I already wrote to you:
I'm only replying to your comments, hence if I'm repeating myself is because you reapting yourself.

 

no, repeat yourself cause you don't have a good argument

 

No, I have alot of good arguments, but since I'm only replying to your comments, then if you didnt wrote soemthing new that I've alreay replied about, then I've been forced to repeat myself since you havent wrote any new argument and used the old ones that I already replied to.

 

actually no, you don't.

 

Please re-read my last comment.