This is the state of abortion

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser Refuses To Investigate Potential Cases Of Infanticide In The Nation’s Capital

    Where’s Washington D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser? That’s the question twenty-three members of Congress are asking as the heat rises on an investigation into the deaths of five babies.

    Their bodies were turned over to the city by pro-life activists with the hope that autopsies and an investigation into possible criminal activity be performed. Unsurprisingly, given the politics of the pro-abortion left, no one can be found to answer serious questions about the abortions and possible acts of infanticide that led to their being placed in buckets and treated as waste products.
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/04/1...-cases-of-infanticide-in-the-nations-capital/

    For those who believe the so-called right of a woman to kill her baby out ranks the right we are all guarantied for our life view this and then tell us how a human being is not killed in an abortion. Tell me how you support late term abortion at the discretion of the mother of the baby. Tell me how this is not evil.




    Two bills banning most late-term abortions blocked by Senate Democrats
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/late-term-abortions-two-bills-banning-blocked-senate-democrats/
     
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    It is not possible to abort an infant. I believe the government has no business interfering on this issue. Besides, abortion laws simply cannot be enforced and have no benefit to society.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Of course it is possible and happens everyday which the videos and say that again. Those are babies who appear to have been killed in abortions.
     
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    Embryos and fetuses maybe, but not babies or infants. I certainly understand how you feel on this issue, but abortion laws cannot be enforced and have no benefit to society. Those with a genuine concern are walking the walk. There is a group that offers free ultrasounds to pregnant women considering abortion. When they hear the heartbeat, some decide to carry full term. Using government force is unacceptable.
     
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    It's a fetus.

    You really need a dictionary.
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    A human fetus, the baby in the womb, is a human being. YOU need a medical textbook AND a dictionary.

    So what is it you thinkbis killed in n abortion? Are those human beings in the video who have been violently killed?
     
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    That is an unborn baby in the womb. A human being from the moment of conception. Are you saying those really not human beings who were killed being shown in the OP video?
     
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    There are at least two bills pushing through CA and MD that will directly challenge your assertion here. They are designed to allow women to simply abandon and through neglect allow babies who have been born to be categorized as "late term" and not infanticide. Is that really what you want to happen?
     
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    A fetus is not a baby.

    Like your butchery of 'withheld', this is not complicated.
     
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    Fair enough. Lets refer to them a precious lives. I can understand and even agree with you, but can't accept that using government will have a positive effect. Medical tourism, abortion drugs, and access to information, back room abortions render abortion laws useless. If I gave you unlimited resources, how would you enforce such laws?

    Of course not. Once the baby takes a breath, it is no longer an abortion. While I may not agree with what they are doing to their unborn, government interference in their decision is not something I can ever agree with. Besides, there is no level of government interference that will prevent a single abortion, and abortion rates are already declining without gov interference.
     
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    If you look at a typical European country, they have family friendly policies, a lot of them. Heck, even the cities are family friendly.

    Rightys never see the obvious, you want babies, women want babies. Make their world a place they want to have babies..

    That hostility to life you guys have is amazing.
     
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    LOL> Really. Democratic party policies undermine and make the world a place that doesn't want them. Just ask them. something like 50% of democrats don't want kids, and are unwilling to introduce them to the world they created.
     
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    Which has not a thing to do with what I said, and ignores all the wonderful contributions Republicans have made to our low birth rate.
     
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    We can't stop all murder, we can't stop all rape.............should we not have laws?


    Before and after are the killing of an innocent human being.

    If that is true then why do the pro-abortion side scream and such laws would?
     
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    We are discussing abortion laws specifically. Opposing one law does not equal opposing all laws. For the sake of discussion, I will give you the benefit of being 100% right as well as unlimited resources for the purpose of enforcing abortion laws. How would you get around medical tourism, abortion drugs, the internet, and back room abortions?
     
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    You said

    Murder and rape laws do not stop all rape should we dispense of those laws? Doctors cannot by law dispense narcotics to paitients for recreational use, but there are some that do, should we just get rid of those laws.

    The "if you can't stop all you don't try to stop any" argument is folly.
     
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    You are addressing a position I never took. I am not opposed to all laws. on this specific topic:

    I will give you the benefit of being 100% right as well as unlimited resources for the purpose of enforcing abortion laws. How would you get around medical tourism, abortion drugs, the internet, and back room abortions?
     
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    The states are figuring that out now and no it doesn't have to stop EVERY abortion else we don't even try just like laws against murder don't prevent every murder but we still have them. Stop with the inane argument.
     
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    So you DO think abortion is "infanticide"....and yet in another post you showed the stages of life and listed "infant" after birth.....????
     
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    The proper term is Foeticide, take it up with the editor of the OP publication.

    Do you have anything to say about the article in the OP and what has occurred?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    So you DO think abortion is "infanticide"....and yet in another post you showed the stages of life and listed "infant" after birth.....????



    Isn't that "being hoisted on your own petard".... meaning "gotcha" :)


    No, I'm satisfied being able to straighten you out on correct terms....but , ya, the OP is wrong also on their terminology :) :) :)
     
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    Go take it up with the editor at the publication of the OP cite. I educated you on the correct term
     
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    Why would you want to send poor Fox to this moron who can't figure out that a single human cell is not a baby .. shame on you !
     
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    Which type of single human cell are you talking about? A zygote? Yes it is. Of course within hours a zygote becomes multicellular and cells begin to specialize. Biology 101.
     

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