This is what has happened to the GOP

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    That was just Trumps pathetic attempt at using Obama to justify his religious war. Try to remember his actual original plan to ban all Muslims.
     
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    Is that the same as a travel ban? or does that just mean that we examine visas from those countries much more carefullly?
     
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    Are you referring to the CPI? The CPI is calculated based on a weighted average of a basket of goods/services. The effect varies widely on individuals. A 2% increase in the CPI could result in a gain for one individual who did not see a wage increase, and a loss for another who experienced a 5% wage increase.
     
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    Perhaps checks from the DNC directed the campaigns....
     
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    Depends somewhat on where you live.
     
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    True. But Doesn't include energy or food. Maybe someday someone can explain how those can be excluded.
     
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    And how you manage your money.
     
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    The BLS provides a pdf listing of all the components and their weighting applied to CPI-U and CPI-W. Food and energy are included, though not heavily weighted.
    All items LESS food and energy account for 79.103% and 75.957% of CPI-U and CPI-W respectively.
     
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    No of course not.

    Yes, but WHY do you suppose that we "examine visas from those countries much more carefully?

    Surely you can't be serious.
     
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    What does his ORIGINAL plan have to do with the plan that is actually now in place?
     
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    Speaks to Trump's actual motivation which of course has been thwarted by the legal system not changed due to a Trump change of motivation.
     
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    Not applied to cost of living increases for SS as I understand the calculation.
     
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    I got a 2.23% increase in my SS benefit. My cost of living hasn't changed from the previous year, or 2 years ago.
     
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    Well goody for you. Everybody else has seen an increase above 2.23. I guess you don't eat or use energy or buy anything.
     
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    Sorry if I've upset you.
    You better check your SS cost of living increase, "Monthly Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits for more than 66 million Americans will increase 2.0 percent in 2018." When I calculated my increase it is 2.23%, so I assume their figure is rounded.
    Guessing appears to not be your strong suit.
     
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    Sorry what was I guessing about. You lying about not actually experiencing any actual cost increases for two years doesn't bother me.
     
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    So now you're accusing me of lying? I didn't say there have been no cost increases over the last 2 years, I said MY cost of living hasn't increased over the last 2 years, perhaps even longer, considering my son graduated from college last year so I no longer have that expense.
     
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    But the weighting changes, and the list changes. The reasons for the changes are not provided.

    When it was a constant "basket of goods" it had meaning. Now its just a propaganda tool.
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    No, I'm not serious, I'm replying to some guy trying to say all Democrats are still slaveholders because John Calhoun was a Democrat in 1836 (or suchlike, I forget the exact quote)

    So that means we should just outright ban travel from those countries now? The FACT remains that almost ALL of our muslim terrorists were American CITIZENS, and one of the nations most prominently EXEMPTED from Trump's ban was the KSA where all but ONE of the 9/11 terrorists came from
     
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    Newsflash, none of the 9-11 terrorists were American CITIZENS.
     
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    Temporarily, yes.

    100% correct. So then why didn't Obama place visa waiver restrictions on KSA?
     
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    He never attempted to pass a Muslim ban, he only ever talked about it. When you talk about it being "thwarted by the legal system", you're thinking about the legal challenges to the travel ban.
     
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    You need to do some research and get your facts straight. His original travel ban was a Muslim ban.
     
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    So it targeted only majority Muslim countries? Which ones?
     

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