This is what has happened to the GOP

Interesting post.

 

WE sent jews back to die?

 

The USA rejected whole shiploads of Jewish refugees in 1939

 

I don't remember exactly but I believe I was replying to one or another conservative who had repaid a compliment of mine to point how ALL liberals are degenerates of some sort. I must be more careful. A lot of the posters here must work in the IT field and can make these boards sit up and beg, so they can reach back into the truly dim recesses and quote you out of context to a fare-thee-well.

 

If you say other races are inferior you are indeed on a slippery slope to murder. The logically progressed end result of segregation is Auschwitz

So do I. I believe the apex achievement of the Human race is the ideals of the Enlightenment, ideals on which the USA is founded.

And one of those ideals is the concept that there is really no such thing as Western Culture, just as there is no West, there are no races and there are no other artificial groups. There are people and there is humanity, and there are INDIVIDUALS and in the final analysis there are ONLY individuals.

And any individual who would deny himself the enjoyment of any part of humanity's achievements, any who would forego experiencing beauty created by another human individual just because it is not from one or another cultural tradition is indeed stultifying himself. Any who would deny that enjoyment to others is worse, they are a Philistine.

 

Over 900 were denied entry to the U.S., we did not send them back to Germany, only allowed them to go elsewhere.
Note:
President - Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
House - 58.7% (D)
Senate - 70.8% (D)
And a Supreme Court packed by FDR
Republicans/Conservatives had nothing to do with it.

 

They had nowhere else to go. They did go back and many did subsequently die in he camps I said the USA not conservative USA. The whole idea of liberal conservative was very different then, if it existed at all.

 

That is ridiculous. I believe other species are inferior to humans, but I don't want to kill them because of that fact. But perhaps you could explicate that logical progression for me. I can point out the flaws in your logic or the unwarranted additional assumptions you make

The idea there is no Western Culture is not an ideal of the Enlightenment. Universities have courses in Western Culture. Until comparatively recently it was a required course at Stanford. Indeed, I turned against the civil rights movement precisely because Al Sharpton chanted "Hey, hey, ho, ho Western Culture's got to go. You are a victim of post-modern education which seeks to deconstruct Western Civilization for its own nefarious purposes.

I don't deny myself any enjoyment. I simply don't enjoy the accomplishments of other cultures as much as Western Culture. And there is surely more than enough to occupy myself in the West. I don't speak Chinese so I can't read Chinese literature. Chinese music is based on a different scale than Western music so it sounds odd and constrained to my ear. I don't have the musical vocabulary to understand what the performer is trying to express. The same with the visual arts. I don't have the cultural background to understand the relationships and symbols that are present in foreign cultural artifacts that are different than my own.

My appreciation and yours too although you won't admit it, of foreign culture can be at best superficial. And here I find myself in rare agreement with leftists: cultural appropriation should be avoided. Cultures are distinct and unified: in technical terms they are incommensurate.

 

Some did go elsewhere, Great Britain, France, Belgium, Netherlands, and about 85,000 did gain entry to the U.S. This thread appears to be focused on the GOP, which was not in control of our government during the period of time you're referring to. I would say liberalism, as we see it today, began in the late 19th century with the progressive movement, which has made us the 'richest' country in the world, if you consider unpaid debts to represent wealth.
In answer to the OP question, the same thing that happened to the Democrat party politicians has happened to many/most of the Republican party politicians, perhaps only to a lesser degree.

 

Do you know why many of the Nazis wanted to kill the Jews? Because they believed that there were two superior races, the Aryans and the Jews and they had to kill the Jews before the Jews killed them. Keep in mind that there are no species of animals that pose any threat to humanity, they are all extinct. Other species pose no threat to humanity by their mere existence but other groups of humans do, IF you see them as separate and distinct from yourself

Western Culture sees itself as separate and distinct from other cultures because it is easier to study that way not because it really is. I daresay that Stanford itself would agree with that.

No one is saying that you deny yourself anything, but you would deny other people the right to enjoy and practice other cultures in your Western oriented utopia would you not? My appreciation of my own culture is superficial, so what?

 

I don't see any other races as a threat except by sheer force of numbers. That is why I want them to stay in their own country. Some European politician observed that a hundred million Africans want to enter Europe. That sounds like an existential threat to Europe to me. And there are more and more Africans all the time and fewer and fewer Europeans.

Now that doesn't make any sense. Western culture would be incapable of seeing itself as separate and distinct if it wasn't.

You just said I deny myself the pleasure a couple of posts above! People can enjoy what ever cultures they like. But they should be required to learn Western cultures in school. Indeed, Mr. Sharpton and his PC minions are the ones who want to deny people the pleasure of enjoying Western Culture. I stand opposed to that.

Alex: "My appreciation of my own culture is superficial, so what?"

If you stand by that statement, you have no business in this discussion at all.

 

Not only is he his son inlaw but he is one of his main advisers. Also considering his relations with Israel I can honestly say I do not think Trump hate the Jews.

 

If you want more Europeans encourage Europeans to reproduce more. If you want people to stay at home, stop being so helpful to them about blowing their own homes up and start being more helpful about helping to make their own homes pleasant to live in. By and large people don't WANT to uproot themselves and move thousands of miles to live somewhere else if they don't have to for some reason.

You're incapable of using the words "It's like a....? When you go in the courtroom of a harsh judge you have to be careful not to trip over all the books he's thrown at people? In 1453 cheering crowds were outside of Gutenberg's Print shop and some had traveled all the way to Constantinople to usher in the beginning of the Renaissance? We say things are what they're not all the time

That's my whole point. Western Culture nowadays IS foreign culture. You can't really keep up in many very useful STEM type fields unless you can read Japanese and Russian yet there are still people (and I'll lay money I'm talking to one.) who would sooner teach ancient Greek and Classical Latin than either one of those languages

 

What is your evidence that Trump is a Holocaust denier?

 

Trump wants to kill Muslims and Hispanics? Surely you can't be serious.

 

I'm serious as a heart attack. One thing everybody keeps forgetting is that Hitler didn't start out with "let's kill all the Jews" from day one. Trump is, in fact, further along almost the exact same path that Hitler was on at this time in his career. Hitler's speeches at this time still used "pawnbrokers" for Jews and really hardly mentioned them at all, concentrating mainly on his economic agenda. Kristallnacht was 4 years on and the Final Solution 2 years after that. Trump has already put on a travel ban for Muslims and bashes Hispanics every chance he gets.

 

How is it a travel ban for Muslims? Are you under the impression that all Muslims are banned from entering the US?

When is the last time that he bashed Hispanics? If you say

 

I realize it's just people from some countries and he's let off on bashing anyone but Democrats recently. The thing I'm trying to point out is that not even Hitler started out calling the Jews rapists and murderers from day one, like Trump did. Trump is boiling us like the proverbial frog, the water is not uncomfortable yet but if we don't jump out of the pot soon we won't be able to

 

Why would they run as Democrats?

 

Then why did you call it a "Muslim ban?"

Did Trump say that ALL Mexicans were rapists and murderers?

Why would they run as Democrats?

 

The quality of a woman or a political party can often be best viewed by consideration of the suitors/candidates she or it rejects.

 

Because they are all Muslim countries, and there have been very few terrorists that have come here from them. Almost all of our muslim terrorists are home grown and most of them citizens

Yes. but he did correct himself saying "and some of them are good people" a meaningless sop to placate people with the common sense to recognize an ethnic slur when they hear one.

They wouldn't, for they recognize that bigotry is no longer part of the Democratic platform, but is now a part of the Republican

 

His primary enemies are Hispanics. I don't think he hates anybody, but his politics requires enemies

 

Then why did the Obama administration place visa waver restrictions on the exact same countries?

 

Except of course the cost of living really under reflects the actual increase in the cost of living.