Those kids are pretty wicked

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  1. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    I dont think this is so much god's fault as it is that these children are unfortunately African.
     
  3. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    If a deity allows such a thing to occur it is unspeakably evil.
     
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    Why's that? What do you know of the ways of the supernatural?
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    "God works in mysterious ways" is the standard cop out for the Problem of Evil.
     
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    You're assuming that "omnipotent" refers to a power to prevent the existence of evil.
     
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    Pretty sure these kids lives suck cause their African. None more to it.

    that's reality. (*)(*)(*)(*), it's probably science too. if you don't eat because your country blows, you will lose weight and starve.
     
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    Then, by the same standard, you are also unspeakably evil.
     
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    Omnipotent means all powerful.

    All is totally encompassing.

    The definition of God is working against you right now.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Oh, so I have the power to strike down world hunger in one swift motion?

    Please, enlighten me on how I will go about do this.
     
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    I think he means an atheist appeal that a god lets people starve is fool-hardy, when they are indeed ignoring those scientific facts that explain the situation. Darwinism, anatomy, physiology.
     
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    No, it is an argument I have heard again and again.

    Claim: Why doesn't God feed the hungry and bring about the end of world hunger?
    [Supposed] Rebuttal: Why don't you do something about it?

    The irony is that the rebuttal removes God as a solution and places the power to end injustice in the hands of human beings, a very humanistic argument. The Claim points out the contradiction in all loving deity who listens to our mummerings and reads our thoughts, the Problem of Evil is a huge stumbling block for the theist. They usually conclude that God is either unwilling or unable to stop atrocities, and yet do not see the paradox created in admitting such.
     
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    But that's such a faulty tactic. There's no way an atheist could use this a legit source to dispute religion.

    I mean, can't atheists use science? Hell, the catholic church accepts evolution and the big bang (big bang theory was actually created by a catholic).

    No one said that any god was the nurturer and care taker of all humans.

    Except Baptists.
     
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    Read the verse cited in the image.
     
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    If God is evil because he could reduce or eliminate hunger but does not do so, then you are also evil because you could reduce hunger but choose not to do so.

    More importantly, you have created your own value system, then decided to judge God against it. That is no different from when a Christian judges an unbeliever against Christian values or when a Muslim judges an infidel against Sharia law.
     
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    Romans 3:
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    There is no one righteous, not even one;
    11 there is no one who understands;
    there is no one who seeks God.
    12 All have turned away,
    they have together become worthless;
    there is no one who does good,
    not even one.
     
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    That passage has to include the writer as well. Therefore, by definition his preaching is worthless.
     
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    Read the whole chapter and you'll understand why he mentioned it.
     
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    Romans is the most poorly written book in the Bible.

    However, what the writer said in 3:10-18 applies to himself as well. So his preaching is worthless. He's like the the guy who said "thank goodness I'm not like those sinners." But in fact, he is exactly like them.
     
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    Actually, that its exactly his point. No one is sinless, not even Paul, the author. In another passage he calls himself the worst of sinners.

    The whole point of christianity is that no one deserves salvation and that no one can earn their salvation. Salvation is a gift from God, something that is given, not earned. Salvation is for the sinner, not the saint.
     
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    Oh, so I have the power to strike down world hunger in one swift motion?

    Please, enlighten me on how I will go about do this.
     
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    A God allowing little children to starve to death is not a God who should be defended or admired. He should be hated and reviled.
     
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    That depends on your definition of "allow".

    You pretend to understand the mechanics of the supernatural world.
     
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    He is allowing it. Those kids can't help themselves, they are kids. God could help them yet he chooses not to.
     
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    How do you know that?
     

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