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How many black quarterbacks were there before Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham in the NFL?

So that would mean every white quarterback drafted out of college had great numbers, correct?

Well you explain to us what the hold up was.

So you are saying that it wasn't racism that kept black athletes from playing QB in the NFL for years. Do you really believe that? I am pretty sure you are in a small minority, because years of history show otherwise.

 

What is the explanation for the lack of White WRs, RBs and cornerbacks in the NFL.......::racism and discrimination is the only explanation......it makes it difficult to field a winning all White fantasy football team.......just sayin'

 

James Harris, Joe Gilliam, J.J. Jones, Dave May, John Walton, Parnell Dickinson, Vince Evans, Doug Williams.

Not playing your game. There was a drought of NFL ready passers in the 70s coming out of college. Since you coach football as I do but know jack (*)(*)(*)(*) about its history let me fill you in. Black QB's were very successful in college in the 70s because split back and bone triple option veer was all the rage in college but there were successful as system runners. Texas High schools still plays under NCAA rules because the NCAA rules were more favorable to triple option teams than the NFHS. Just like it was a few years ago before the spread hit big last year all the successful triple option QBs were not seen as translating to the NFL and the triple option never translated to the NFL. That more than anything explains the sudden drop off in black QBs entering the NFL during the 70s.

Uh he was under contract in Canada. When his contract ended and he entered NFL free agency it was one of the biggest bidding wars in the history of the League.

Nothing kept them from playing QB because there had been plenty of black QB's in the NFL before Moon. There has been a black QB starting in the NFL every season since 1968.There was a lot of reasons blacks didn't play QB in large numbers at the time most of which actually relates to style of offense and athleticism. You coach but you don't seem to know a damn thing about football or its history.

When everyone was running T-bone 3 back sets and all your QB did was hand off and throw maybe 6 times a game you didn't put your best athlete at quarterback. You put him at running back. As the college game evolved into the triple option black QBs were very effective in college but the triple option game didn't translate to the NFL. Few triple option QBs have transitioned successfully to the NFL white or black, see Eric Crouch.

Now we are in a great time for the black QB because the game has changed not views on race. With the advent of the spread you don't put your best athlete at running back you put him at QB. That is rule #1 of coaching the spread at the youth level. This has lead to way more black youths growing up and learning the game as QBs. And while the triple option was never able to transition to the NFL the spread and spread option sure as hell has. And the running QB is no longer just a running QB. Even back when I was a player you didn't dabble in option. You had to spend your practice time on it to be good at it. This meant that option QBs didn't put the time in needed to be excellent passers. But in the modern game that has all changed. Now for these young black athletic QBs while they practice option during the season they have 9 months of off season spread passing leagues and camps to hone their skills as a passer so the option QB that cant throw is a dying breed. Tebow is probably the last. And he is white lol.

Your knowledge of the game is really saddening. You should spend more time studding the game and its history and less (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about perceived slights against your race. We both coach at minority schools. We don't have a single white starter on offense. And one white starter on defense. But you know what I have a ring. Given your attitude I'm willing to bet you don't. The kind of hate you must spew at practice will never ever make them winners both on and off the field.

 

Geno Smiff's numbers from last night in the Jets loss to the Patriots:

15 for 35; 0 TDs; 3 interceptions

But Tim Tebow was not allowed to start for the Jets because of his "low completion percentage",,,,,LMAO..........the NFL wants black starting QBs so bad.......strong Christian, White males need not apply..........the agenda is readily apparent to all but the blind......

 

The first pro football black QB was way back in 1921....

http://www.footballperspective.com/the-history-of-black-quarterbacks-in-the-nfl/

 

And people wonder why race relations are stagnant, it because people do not recognize or realize that not all white people are racist and they will go to great lengths to make sure that tensions remain high. No progress means that racists still exists.

 

I don't recall claiming that all white folks are racist.

 

But I'm sure you would agree that the NFL is racist.........what do you think about those impressive numbers that the Jets unchallenged quotaback put up last night while Tim Tebow remains unemployed?

 

Its more the tenor than the words. Racism sucks, no matter who the racist is.

 

Agreed......that's why I hate the NFL so much........it's the most racist organization out there.....every year the NFL only drafts about 23 percent white players in a country that is 70 percent white........the NFL's racism is why Geno Smiff is starting for the Jets and Tim Tebow is unemployed.......

 

This little article pretty much sums up the story of the Black Quarterback in the NFL.

Your denial of history when it comes to the NFL and black quarterbacks is what is really saddening.

 

Translation! You cant make an argument so you are hoping that some (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag blogger can.

Your source
http://www.blackchampagne.com/articles/rush-qbs.shtml

Now moving on let me dissect said dumb(*)(*)(*)(*).

What decades? When? There have been black players in the NFL since its inception in 1920. And there were black players on professional club teams before that.

So right form the start your source makes something up.

Again no knowledge what so ever of the game or its history. There was no carefully dissecting defense for much of the 20th century. Football was heavy sets with maybe a single split end going deep. Was Terry Bradshaw a mental savant? Was Joe Namath? No they were guys who could fling it deep and let their receivers go get it. Your QB could be a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing moron so long as he had a gun. This idea of the super smart field general who dissects the defense is a product of the West Coast offense that Walsh introduced in the late 70s and perfected in the 80s.

So just like you your source knows jack (*)(*)(*)(*) about the history of the game.

Again your source knows jack (*)(*)(*)(*) about the game. The barriers began to crumble because the triple option dominated the high school and college game. But the triple option dos not, never did, and will never translate to the NFL.

They were encouraged to switch the running back because that is what they really played in college. A triple option QB is a running back who occasionally throws the ball. That is why the white Tebow has been encouraged to switch to running back. In college he was really a running back who occasionally threw the ball. And guess what Tebow is white!!!

So here your dip(*)(*)(*)(*) blogger recognizes the success black QBs had running the option but fails to see how being option QBs made it almost impossible to transition to the NFL. They couldn't succeed as passers because just like Tebow they were option QBs all their life. They spent their entire life from youth through college running option and just like the white Tebow, just like white Crouch they hadn't developed the passing skills to play in the NFL. You aren't' going to develop into a passer in the NFL.

And at the time that running was triple option. Which never did work in the NFL and never will work in the NFL. The coaches were exactly right and they are still right. You cant load up the backfield and run tripple option. NFL defense are simply too fast.

No option QBs would just run at every opportunity because that is what they have been doing their entire life, just like Tebow, just like Crouch.

This has nothing to do with race but the style of football they have been playing their entire life. \

Again you source knows jack (*)(*)(*)(*) about the game.

Exactly that game was about throwing it deep to your receiver. Brandsahw wasn't a smart field general. He had a gun and could chuck it a mile.

Yes I remember Andre Ware and Akili Smith. There are examples of college system QBs not transitioning to the NFL.

I'm laughing that he brings up Andre Ware. Ware lost his job to Rodney Pete. A black QB who played in the NFL for 16 seasons.

Wayne Fontes was such a racists choosing to bench the black QB so he could start the ... black QB.

Yeah everyone just discounts

Lief, Miller, Marinovich, Couch, Shuler, Tebow, I can keep going.

Your source is talking out of his ass.

No one takes Ware loosing his starting job to Pete as evidence that black guys cant play QB. You have to be a fricking idiot to be that ignorant. Ware's failure has always been about Run and Shoot QB's not transitioning to the NFL. That is how he made NFL top 10 draft busts. He was lumped in with all Run and Shoot QBs.

Again your source knows jack (*)(*)(*)(*)!

Total bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!!! NFL QB's are not lead footed. Even the white guys. Lead footed white QBs don't last long in the NFL. Being lead footed is a major knock on any QB white or black. Why do you think Matt Barkley fell so far in the draft? He's got lead feet. Even the guys who might not run very fast 40s move very very well in the pocket, see Manning. And Manning ran a 4.8 coming out of college but is slower now because he is old. But he still moves will in a small space.

In the end superbad you can always find someone on the internet who is just as wrong as you are. Consensus amongst the ignorant is no sign of accuracy.

 

Since this is a thread about Tebow we can look at the case of Tebow and see that the problem that black QBs had was never about racism.

Tebow is white. Tebow is really white. Tebow is so white he thinks Malcolm X stands for Malcolm the tenth.

But what do we hear about Tebow? Tebow gets the same criticism that running black option QBs got.

It aint the race its the style of play.

 

He's not forcing anyone to take part in anything religious. So what's your beef? No you want to take away the man's freedom of speech just because you don't believe the way he does? That's like the atheist that sued to stop Bush from say (So help me God) when he was sworn in as President. Where is your tolerance for others? Is everything wrong when it disagrees with your beliefs. So much so that you want to stop it?

 

Tim Tebow is an influential figure, he can fill churches with little kids who want to be Christians because of their football hero. We want to limit that religion, it already has too much power in its influence over the people already. The beliefs themselves aren't at issue here, but its the way Tim peddles his religion in public. That is suppose to be private, he shouldn't take it publicly in the NFL because it offends Atheists, Agnostics, Jews, Muslims, and other minorities who believe different things.

 

Oh I see your point. We don't want these kids to learn about honoring your parents, Or learning not to steal, or covet what others have. We wouldn't want them to believe there is a higher power up there watching everything he/she does, to keep them on the strait and narrow. We wouldn't want them to learn to help those who need it. Or treat others as they want to be treated. That turn the other cheek has to go. Can you imagine millions of those kids running around doing that stuff?

This Tebo guy needs to go. Who wants to see a guy thanking God, when we could see parents beating up coaches and umpires at little league?

 

Considering he ignored my link documenting the history of black Qb's in profootball should tell you something....

 

The NFL is thinking about changing the rules on the read option so black QBs don't get hurt.

The NFL wants a black QB to win the superbowl so bad they'll do anything. The only one was 30 years ago.

 

Link?

No?

Go away.

 

Exactly.......that's why we so many quotabacks being highly drafted by the NFL........Geno Smiff threw at a 42 percent completion rate last night, while throwing 3 picks and 0 TDs........meanwhile Tim Tebow who has a winning record as a starting QB in the league is unemployed because "he is inaccurate".......and the drunk white fans and NFL are fine with that.....funny stuff

 

Geno smith can throw the ball more than 10 yards down field without it looking like a dead duck. He was also a 2nd round pick while the crap QB Tebow was a first. White nationalists are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing retards.

 

Yep.....Tebow can't throw more than ten yards.......as a white self-loather I'm sure you will cringe watching this video of Timmy throwing a 29 yard TD strike to that racissssss Riley Cooper.......over the head of first round NFL pick Brandon Boykin........I love this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wguMcRQ5nI

 

Wow maybe if he had Riley Cooper on his team he wouldn't have finished the year with the worst completion percentage in NFL history. Even your beloved so called whitest team in the league thought he wasn't worth a roster spot. Face it your boy was a great college QB and a horrible NFL QB. Just like hundreds before him. Drafted in the first round and a one year flash in the pan bust. Of course if he would just switch positions he would probably play for 10 years, but he is entitled to play QB in his mind and is so ego driven to admit otherwise.

 

Or here's an 80 yarder to Damaariusss Thomas to win a playoff game against the Steelers vaunted defense.......enjoy watching the athlete who "can't throw more than ten yards":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV2YqyeRB40

LMAO at the self-loathing......

 

Its a little difficult to call a player a "bust" when he took a 1-4 team to the playoffs......won the playoff game with an 80 yard TD throw against one of the best defenses in the league.........and was never allowed to play again......that is better defined as discrimination/racism rather than a "bust"