Time to end the academic arms race

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    This is a very childish comment. I'm happy for you to give more detail mind you. Could you give the main features of libertarianism within a political economic context?
     
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    freedom and capitalism of course
     
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    Is this your religious rant again?
     
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    I asked for detail, not slogan. Can you refer to the political economy that describes the core features of libertarian analysis? I'm happy for you to quote Hayek if it helps.
     
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    didn't you ever read Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom, Ayn Rand's, Capitalism the unknown Ideal. Im sure you had to read them at the fine libcommie schools you attended?
     
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    a short sentence is hardly a rant. Want to try again??
     
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    Don't dodge now. I didn't ask you to refer to books that I've read. I asked you to refer to the political economy that describes the core features of libertarian analysis. Is that too much for you?
     
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    You rant about religion regularly (even going as far as suggesting that American individualism is somehow the work of Jesus). I was asking whether your comment "Conservatives are less libertarian preferring govt to teach and support some cultural values" is part of that religious rant?
     
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    there was no rant but yes social conservatives do want govt to support religion and religious values after liberals destroyed religion and religious values in America.
     
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    capitalism. what is it that you don't understand about capitalism?
     
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    Liberal Democracy is capitalist. Social Democray is capitalist. Neither, obviously, are consistent with the core features of libertarian analysis. Why can't you refer to those core features?
     
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    wrong of course both refer to degrees of interference with capitalism. Libertarians want little to no interference. Still confused?
     
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    So your argument is that libertarians demand the continuation of market failure?
     
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    libertarians observe that free markets succeed, and libcommie markets fail, and therefore support free markets.
     
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    How do they do that when free markets do not exist?
     
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    the freerer the market the more it succeeds, the less free the more it fails
     
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    Can you refer to an empirical study in support of that position, particularly as we know that free markets are not desirable?
     
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    sure look at East/West Germany, North/South Korea, USSR/USA, Cuba/Florida. Got now??
     
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    You've referred to democracy versus dictatorship. I asked something very clear: Can you refer to an empirical study in support of 'the freerer the market the more it succeeds', particularly as we know that free markets are not desirable?

    I predict you can't!
     
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    yes odd how it usually takes a dictator for communism and how capitalism and democracy are the same.
     
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    China was/is dictatorship and was/is communist capitalist. The variable that changed economic system.
     
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    Those dictatorships are state capitalist. Socialists have long argued against them (see Orwell. You probably know him as his output has been made into movies).

    My prediction was correct, unfortunately. Can't you refer to one economist who concludes, through credible economic study, that 'the freerer the market the more it succeeds'?
     
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    sure MIlton Friedman, and????????????
     
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    You do make me laugh. You think referring to a right wing economist meets my simple criteria? Tut tut! Present the economic study.
     

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