To neo-cons who think that welfare recipeints are lazy

Neo-cons think that there are a bunch of lazy poor people on welfare living the high life. It's clear they have never tried to get on welfare or investigate it for themselves, because they would realize how difficult it actually is to get on welfare and stay on it, and how barebones the benefits actually are.

The neo-cons have fallen into this exact trap that the elite have set for them. It is a distraction, neo-cons have been brainwashed into associating the term "welfare" with "lazy poor people". This is simply not true. Anybody who has been paying attention realizes that the majority of welfare in this country goes to the top elite, the superwealthy, a very small concentration of people, in the form of subsidies and bailouts with taxpayer money (or inflation).

It also makes the brainwashed neo-cons actually place the blame for the state of the economy on "lazy" poor people "mooching" off the system. They do not understand that the state of the economy was caused by the elite controlling our government, and that poor people need to go on welfare BECAUSE of the actions of the elite controlling our government, screwing up the economy and driving the cost of living up (through inflation) to give themselves subsidies and bailouts. It is for this reason (inflation) that gold is the ENEMY of the welfare state, because using gold as money would continuously raise the standard of living of the poor class in America.

 

It's easy to live on welfare whether you're "poor" or "rich" (Both get various types of illegitimate welfare).

 

Yep. What's worse is that they are happy to pay for "liberation" and "rebuilding" of nations with no relevance to the good of the American people. Neo-Cons are imperialist progressives and worse than your average bleeding heart democrat.

 

Welfare should be a state and local issue. The federal government does not create goods or wealth, it steals it from the people through inflation and taxes.

Why do we bother having state and local governments? This thread is a diversion from the theft of liberty.

 

Dr. Righteous must be a "Progressive" who as fallen into the trap the elites have set for him that people on welfare are hard working dedicated family people temporarily down on their luck and for no good reason none of their family or friends will lend them a helping hand.

No one that I know says people on the dole live the "high" life unless they're also dealing drugs but they are generally speaking a lazy group. They stay up late and get up late. Some keep vampire hours.

It's not hard to get on welfare when your mother and your grandmother were both on welfare and you're a legacy. You even inherit their case worker. There are many different types of "welfare". The best is SSI. You can be on that for your entire life and if you keep voting Democrat after your dead the benefits might continue.

I had a friend who had nine children when her third husband died. She went on welfare for about 18 months but she wasn't lazy and busted her butt getting off welfare. She also turned out three lawyers and three teachers out of the batch on nine kids and the other three have done well. But, she was sure the exception.

I used to chat with two fifteen year old girls most days with nice weather. They'd be hanging downtown with their babies. I kept talking about them going to school and get a GED or even graduating and they kept laughing at me. They were planning a life on welfare.

 

Lol Dr. Righteous? The name alone holds self evident implications. However, my last thread addresses this directly. I think you will enjoy it. http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-tea-party-can-fix-washington-corruption.html

Enjoy the historical truth my friend.

 

Good description of the tactics of those receiving corporate welfare.

 

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Welfare system encourages laziness and creates dependency. It discourages hard work. As a person who has been on welfare, section 8, foodstamps and who depended on a medical card that seemed to pay for everything...I can tell ya it hurts you more then helps to have "entitlements" handed to you as long as you keep yourself from making a certain income.

Its an attitude of work ethic that gets you ahead....and super wealthy has nothing to do with destroying that ethic.

 

Dr. Right's main point was that establishment republicans rail against welfare for the poor, but seem to turn a blind eye to welfare for the elite. It's your biggest flaw.

 

Totally agree, good post.

 

Honestly...it seems to be Obama's biggest flaw. I'm not sure how you can say Republicans are for "elite" welfare.

Are you speaking of tax breaks? Or cutting taxes? Farming subsidies? Perhaps definate examples would be helpful on what exactly is the op's interpetation of "Elite Welfare". I know that conservatives were against the bailouts--to the auto industry, banks etc. While the Democrats seemed to be for it and still for it.

 

He was talking about neo-cons, not conservatives. Perhaps you should take a look at which candidates supported the bailouts. Tea party Cain says yay.

 

So, you're saying his main point was nonsense.

 

Actually most of them do just that. They say "the 'rich' earned all their money", when they really did not, considering this very point.

 

Agreed.

Government doesn't create wealth, period. It doesn't matter if it's at the federal, state or local level...the federal level just so happens to have the mechanism of inflation to assist itself.

Because it's in the Constitution and the State Constitutions.

What makes you say that? I think i've raised very valid points.

 

You're both right and wrong IMO: you are right about everything I stated in my video about most tax money going to the rich and not poor, unlike the illusion is being created, but there IS a lazy, ignorant welfare class who breed even better then working class people, however. again your statement can be corrected by adding that the same elites CREATED this welfare class with their control of the government....
So nothing to argue about really, I'm just trying to keep the conversation going.

 

Depends on your definition of progressive. The term "progressive" typically defines a political ideology that is actually regressive. I tend to think that my beliefs are progressive in that they would take this country to a form of government and economy that has never been tried on a grand scale before.

When did I say that all people on welfare are hard working dedicated family people?

Baseless claim.

Baseless claim.

That's because a high school GED won't get you anywhere that wouldn't require going on welfare this day in age. The cost of living is just too high. No wonder they were laughing at you.

 

Thank you for that. You're right, I enjoyed reading the OP and found it to be quite accurate.

 

I never said that there are no welfare recipients that live the high life. Most of them do not.
I never said that there are no welfare recipients that take advantage of the government. Alot of them do.

 

Interesting ... P. Lotor has been trying (unsuccessfully) to explain this to me in another thread, and I'm just not getting it. My instinct tells me that there's something to this concept but I don't get it intellectually. Maybe you'll have better luck. Explain what you mean about gold, please?

 

Poor people would die and thus the people that were actually remaining, would be well off (materially) for the most part, in a truly capitalistic system.

Social darwinism, remember.

 

No, many aren't lazy. Many are perfectly capable individuals working under the table or through other illegal means and just use welfare as extra spending money.

 

I don't believe that to be necessarily true. There are plenty of fiscally responsible people who work 40 hour weeks at minimum wage and still cannot make ends meet.

So you're blaming the government for your lack of work ethic? I disagree that the availability of welfare is what makes people lazy. Lazy people use the government as a tool to continue being lazy. There are plenty of people on welfare who are not lazy and that it does not diminish their work ethic.

I would agree with your statement if we lived in a true free market. However, we do not. In a socialist economy like ours, the cost of living is continuously rising for the poor. No amount of work ethic can compensate for an out of control cost of living.

 

"neo-cons" is one of those meaningless words--so it explains nothing.

Is Obama a Neo-Con? He's pretty big on corporate welfare, right? But I don't think the OP was thinking Democrat or Liberal...the term "Neo-Con" is such a wimp out way to target republicans..