Top Arizona education official defeated after DOE website plugged LGBT chatroom for teens

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  1. cd8ed

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    Data doesn’t match what you are saying
    https://lesley.edu/article/the-cost-of-coming-out-lgbt-youth-homelessness

    I would ask how increased violence and discrimination against LGBT groups is an appeal to emotion but I am willing to bet it is just as relevant as anything you have written thus far.
     
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    Say whatever you want. People have seen enough.

    Organizations, unless it's an organization for the purpose of pedophilia, are composed of individuals. I know leftists want to get rid of religion and will use whatever excuse they have.
     
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    Oh please. Anti-gay violence (at least from straight people) is so low that leftists have to make up 5 or 6 hate hoaxes every year because the supply doesn't meet the demand.

    If you want to be stunning and brave move to New York as and identify as a Jewish asian woman. That would actually take balls.
     
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    So zero sources — just your opinion.
    That’s all you need to hate an entire group of people but the fact that you cannot really show any of what you are saying is happening on a large scale shows just what this is.

    And I couldn’t care less how many people cons have propagandized into believing drag queens (which have existed for generations throughout most societies in various forms) are a threat to children while ignoring the thousands of cases being brought against religious organizations

    Bigotry is a disease of the mind.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you name the last heterosexual bar that was shot up because they were heterosexual?
     
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    Can you name the last gay bar that was shot up because they were gay?
     
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    Oh it's far from just my opinion. I just don't want to waste my time.

    If you think letting them target children is bigotry then go right ahead. Don't really care.
     
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    If you have to answer a question with another question then your premise has failed.


    Pulse Nightclub Mass Shooting: Remembering the 49 Victims, 6 Years Later

    Gunman kills 5 at LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado Springs before patrons confront and stop him, police say

    And before you make excuses about the one in Colorado, as more facts come out it is showing that the attorney’s statement that he is “non-binary” is false looking at his prior comments as well as his father and grandfathers remarks.

    There are 55 victims
    Your turn
     
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    You don’t want to waste your time but you have been going on for pages… I am sure that makes sense to someone.

    Imagine thinking reading to children is targeting them but literal child rape in religious institutions should be taken as individual cases.

    It would be laughable if not so evil
     
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    I already proved my point: even in the face of irrefutable evidence, it still doesn't penetrate.

    Call me a bigot, a nazi, a racist.....I don't care.

    Already went on record with what should happen to anyone that sexualizes children: full stop.

    You don't care about that, you just want to demonize religion. It's obvious.
     
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    Pulse was not shot up because they were gay.

    Pulse was a target of opportunity because the mall that was the 1st target was too well guarded.

    You didn't honestly think I didn't know this would be your answer did you?

    You should have known, but you fell for me making my point AGAIN.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/what-really-happened-night-pulse-n882571

    What really happened that night at Pulse
    The attack on the nightclub has long been seen as a hate crime directed at the LGBTQ community. But all evidence says the gunman chose it at random.
     
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    You'd think they'd spent 2 minutes looking things up before they post, but I'll go ahead and prove they don't for the second time in just this thread.

    https://www.merckmanuals.com/home/m...philias-and-paraphilic-disorders/transvestism

    Transvestism involves recurrent, intense sexual arousal from cross-dressing. Transvestic disorder is transvestism that causes significant distress or substantially interferes with daily functioning.

    Funny how they don't put on silk panties and try to read books to dock workers.
     
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    You repeating your opinion doesn’t prove anything

    You keep saying you don’t care an awfully lot to be continuing to say the same thing over and over.

    Any organization that hides child rapists should be shut down permanently. Just because that organization matches your chosen belief structure shouldn’t give it a pass and it is disgusting that you feel it does.
     
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    Like the Federal government that won't release Epsteins list?

    Like the Biden administration for enabling pedophilia and sex trafficking across the border?

    When you start calling for Hunter Biden to be jailed maybe I'll take you seriously.

    Until then, I know what you're doing.

    Already proved how little you really know today. Again.

    You don't care that men dress up as women to get sexually exited before talking to children.

    You just want to get rid of the church.

    Get behind me.
     
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    Delete
     
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    Learn how to post a pic and I'll look at it.
     
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    The federal government? You mean the one under trump?

    I agree they should release it but it won’t be because it contains very rich and powerful people from both sides of the isle.

    I disagree with the Biden administrations immigration policy

    Why should Hunter be jailed besides being a crack head POS?

    You have yet to disprove anything

    You have failed to show that cross dressers “get excited” by talking to children”

    The church is getting rid of itself, that you cannot even call it out for what it has done show why so many are turning against it
     
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    If the list contained conservatives they'd have already released the list.

    He was, after all, a Democrat bundler.

    Good for you on the immigration policy. Maybe some common ground after all. Now you just need to wake up to the rest of it.

    Clearly the people you listen to/trust are lying to you. If they weren't, you wouldn't have thought you had a "gotcha" moment with the Pulse shooting.

    He should be jailed because he was clearly having sex with minors from the stuff on the laptop. The laptop the people you listen to told you doesn't exist.

    "The church" leaders may have allowed it, or even encouraged it, or perhaps been too weak to do anything about it. I don't know.

    Just because evil exists in every organization doesn't mean religion is bad.
     
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    I have never said religion is bad — it does tons of good around the world. Western religion seems highly corrupt.

    That you want everything to be done on an individual basis with these religious organizations but wish to paint cross dressers with a massive brush even though the former is responsible for thousands of child rapes and the latter is only responsible this current edition on con outrage shows your bias.

    If it is proven Hunter was having sex with minors I hope he rots in prison. Funny how I can do all the things you keep pushing as “gotchas” while you cannot even denounce the organizations that allowed thousands of children to be victims while people like you happily throw money their way to help it spread.
     
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    Go source it.
     
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    as correct as recounting the votes, as correct of thinking there was a basement under the pizza place where children were kept.
     
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    I can give only anecdotal evidence, which I've already alluded to. Full disclosure, I cannot say that I know a single trans person, but I'm 75 and this trans thing is a fairly new phenomenon. I know and have known many gay people, and as I've already mentioned, they are all from good family life. I have not personally witnessed any gay person being persecuted, and I do not know any person who talks about persecuting gay folks. Several friends of my children, all grown up now, have been gay and perfectly normal and well adjusted.

    Your article from Lesley is not persuasive. It seems to start with a conclusion and then work towards an explanation and justification for that conclusion. It evokes pity for the LGBT, especially the trans, and therein lies its appeal to emotion. We all feel pity for persecuted minorities, and that is the appeal to emotion. Other than rhetoric describing it, I've never met a trans.

    The Dude that looks like a Lady, Rachel Levine in the Biden administration is a grotesque looking person. Rumor had it that J. Edgar Hoover was a cross-dresser. Does that make him trans?

    It seems perverted to me, and much ado about nothing.
     
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    While they are both literal forms of crossdressing, you are completely misconflating erotic crossdressing with drag. They are entirely different things. Erotic crossdressers and or transvestites are often heterosexual men. They get a thrill when crossdressing because they are turned on by femininity. It's often a private or secret act.

    "
    • It is a myth to believe that all cross dressers are homosexual or bi-sexual. There are many cross dressers who are heterosexual men. It is those men who report they enjoy the feel of women’s clothes, the excitement of pushing the limits of societal acceptance, and/or enjoy the feel of risk taking (e.g., they could be caught)."
    • "It is a myth to believe all cross dressers includes a sexual component to the cross dressing. Some cross dressers only do it for the enjoyment of drag and there is not a sexual fetish aspect of it. Whereas other cross dressers are heterosexual males who cross dress as a part of a sexual fetish."

    https://www.drkarenruskin.com/are-all-cross-dressers-gay-transgender-is-it-a-sexual-fetish/

    Drag is the opposite. It is usually (though not absolutely exclusively) performed by gay men (who obviously don't get turned on by femininity and its associations) and it's done publicly sometimes to shock politically but mostly and as has been for centuries purely for entertainment.

    The dock workers you mention are more likely to be the erotic crossdressers.

    Maybe you should spend more than two minutes looking before you post?

    Apples and oranges.
     
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    I really don't care what form their mental illness takes. Great job trying to normalize it though.
     
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    You don't care about facts as long as you get to demonize and cast aspersions against a completely wrong group of people.

    Bigotry 101.

    Just remember, you're the one who posted:

    "You'd think they'd spent 2 minutes looking things up before they post, but I'll go ahead and prove they don't for the second time in just this thread."

    And I'm the one who just pointed out that you didn't prove ****.
     
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