Total Fixation on COVID

That is a problem, that you are the one who do not understand human right and ready give them up.

Universal human rights standards recognize that every person has the right to be free from arbitrary detention and forced medical treatment.
https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/...ds recognize,rights when they become pregnant.

Whatever you call it Bill of rights or Human rights, apparently you do not understand that human rights have been violated.

 

No, I have not given up anything that I consider a human right. I have not given up anything else either.

People who shriek about human rights violations because they are asked to wear a mask in a hospital, and probably going to complain about everything else too, so its becomes a waste of time to discuss it with them.

This is about abortion.

Can you just quote the text from the Constitution which you are referring to?

“the elimination of communicable diseases through vaccination became one of the greatest achievements of public health in the 20th century.” - Anthony Scalia

Not Breaking News: Mandatory Vaccination Has Been Constitutional for Over a Century
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/...n-has-been-constitutional-for-over-a-century/
"The key mandatory vaccination case is Jacobson v. Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905). A town facing a smallpox outbreak exercised its state-delegated power and imposed a mandatory vaccination requirement. A vaccination opponent sued, “insist[ing] that his liberty is invaded when the state subjects him to fine or imprisonment for neglecting or refusing to submit to vaccination” and “that a compulsory vaccination law is unreasonable, arbitrary, and oppressive, and, therefore, hostile to the inherent right of every freeman to care for his own body and health.” Id. at 26. He lost, 7–2. Justice Harlan (the elder) held:

[T]he liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States to every person within its jurisdiction does not import an absolute right in each person to be, at all times and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint. There are manifold restraints to which every person is necessarily subject for the common good. On any other basis organized society could not exist with safety to its members. Society based on the rule that each one is a law unto himself would soon be confronted with disorder and anarchy.
Id.

Rather, “persons and property are subjected to all kinds of restraints and burdens in order to secure the general comfort, health, and prosperity of the state.” Id. (citation and quotation marks omitted). “Liberty” is “freedom from restraint under conditions essential to the equal enjoyment of the same right by others.” Id. at 27. “[T]hose who had no faith in vaccination as a mean of preventing the spread of smallpox . . . put in peril the health of the person vaccinated.” Id. at 36. In the United States, it is “a fundamental principle of the social compact that the whole people covenants with each citizen, and each citizen with the whole people, that all shall be governed by certain laws for ‘the common good.’” Id. at 27. Vaccine resistance need not be tolerated when it allows disease to spread and imperil others.

Thus, mandatory vaccination in smallpox days, as now in COVID-19 times, is entirely constitutional. “Upon the principle of self-defense, of paramount necessity, a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic of disease which threatens the safety of its members.”
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If the mode adopted by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts for the protection of its local communities against smallpox proved to be distressing, inconvenient, or objectionable to some, . . . the answer is that it was the duty of the constituted authorities primarily to keep in view the welfare, comfort and safety of the many, and not permit the interests of the many to be subordinated to the wishes or convenience of the few. . . . n every well ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand.

 

Right, you just do not understand the trick that politicians are playing with people.
They call it vaccination but it is not really vaccination, because it has ZERO effect on the disease.
It does not provide neither immunity nor sterility. They just picked the word is to implement authoritarian policies.

Unfortunately some people do fall into that political garbage.

 

LOL. Ok, whatever gets you through the night.

 

QED of the liberal tactic of pretending not to know things.

 

Insincere apology.

Maybe you should first move out of America if you don't like freedom?? Live by your own rules that you're imposing upon others, dude.

Businesses by and large aren't setting the rules. Governments are forcing them down their throats. Continued QED of liberals pretending not to know things, as I've corrected you on this countless times now.

So you support corporate power and greed? Interesting.

If there was a massive pandemic sweeping the globe, then you'd see some dead bodies (people dying around you). I've seen nothing of the sort.

 

I'm free. Nothing has been taken away from me

Unlike some others I do not search for things to whine about, and nor do I re-define words like human-rights so I can whine about them being taken away from me. I do not share the victim mentality of the whiners.

I support free market capitalism, and if employees start whining about human rights because I ask them to get vaccinated, they'll be the first out the door. Bu-bue!

 

If you're speaking strictly about the Bill of Rights....... a few examples

1st Amendment: Liberals are legislating Climate Change religion, for starters. They are also imposing COVID restrictions upon churches to stop churchgoers from fellowshipping. Big Tech is trying their damnedest to control anti-leftist rhetoric. Liberals are trying their damnedest to crush any press that espouses anti-leftist rhetoric. Liberals cause rioting/violence at any attempt at a right-wing assembly.

2nd Amendment: Liberals have been working for a long time now to ban various rifles at the very least, and ultimately all guns.

4th Amendment: Liberals are constantly spying on people (via government surveillance and databases) and are constantly invading people's privacy and private information, and regularly dox people they don't like.

5th Amendment: Liberals regularly declare that silence = guilt and regularly do not grant due process of law.

6th Amendment: January 6th political prisoners are STILL locked up and being treated extremely poorly, without any bail or trial. Enough said. Liberals always attempt to dox and infiltrate juries in order to get the outcomes that they desire in criminal cases (such as the Chauvin trial).

10th Amendment: Liberals completely poop on powers retained by the States and the people thereof and want the federal government to control everything. They want nationwide vaccine mandates even though the federal government has no such power, and screw what States think about it.

 

Trump didn't shut it down... Governors did... And Democrat Governors were the most tyrannical about it.

 

You tjhink it is a vaccine? Only because the defintion of vaccine was changed.

https://www.citizensjournal.us/the-cdc-suddenly-changes-the-definition-of-vaccine-and-vaccination/

yeah yeah I know, you will site the source as inaccurate,

 

Lie. There is a laundry list of things that you can't do in 2021 that you were able to do in 2019.

Medical tyranny is not free market capitalism, dude.

 

Personally. I think Pres Trump got played, bit time, on the whole Covid hysteria.. he is a germaphobe and that, no doubt , was played up.. wish he would stop promoting the jab.. but, all in all , he took the course any reasonable person would have, given the circumstance and based on the information at the time..

What just knocks me out is how effective treatment with ivermectin and HQC is discouraged and even semi banned.. they have been shown to by highly effective treatmant where the use was permitted (and even encouraged )that state in India comes to mind.

 

Feel free to call it anything you want.

I said I support free market capitalism, and that includes kicking your butt out of my office if you start whining about "human rights" when asked to take a vaccine. It also includes kicking your butt out if I don't like the sound of your voice, or your haircut. Would I want half my staff taking 5 week sick leaves because they didn't take the jab? Hell no. A friend of mine refused the jab based on religion and he has been out for 4 weeks because he got sick from Covid. Firing him would be more than justified.

None of my freedoms has been taken away. Me thinks you complain just for the sake of complaining.

 

Uttar Pradesh... And there's even a study that was done in a city in Brazil where a bunch of people took it and they saw positive results from it. And Japan saw great results from it.

 

Great results, like people surviving Covid after taking it? Lot of people survived by laying down and watching re-runs of Game Of Thrones.

 

Case numbers dramatically dropping... death numbers dramatically dropping... people recovering from being on their death beds

 

So, the whole population took it as a preventive measure? Do you have any data on this?

 

yea, you are going to technicalities trying to justify violation of human rights.
Why do you think you will be better off under dictatorial power?

 

I asked you three times to explain yourself, and you were not able to, so it seems obvious you just like to shriek "HUMAN RIGHT" for whatever reason.

 

That is quite simple.
Mandate for unwanted treatment is a violation of human right.

 

Now you have deflected the question 4 times

 

Omicron will bring about 40K new COVID cases a day in Florida by February, UF model says

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article256682942.html#storylink=cpy
University of Florida researchers are projecting the highly contagious omicron variant will lead to about 40,000 new COVID cases a day in Florida by its February apex, around 75 percent higher than what the state witnessed during the peak of the delta variant. But the new COVID wave will be less lethal for Floridians than delta, according to the University of Florida model published Friday. The report, produced by three UF researchers at the Emerging Pathogens Institute at UF, projects four different scenarios about how the COVID situation may play out in Florida considering transmission, the ability for the virus to evade natural or vaccine immunity, and the severity of the disease.

 

common cold virus is here to stay until the end of humanity.
what is a reason to promote dictatorship and make people's life miserable?

 

Maybe its in your nature to be miserable. You look for others to blame for it, but in the end you'll always be miserable.

I'm not miserable, and none of the Covid related stuff is making me feel more miserable.

 

That is whole point of discussion, you are trying to impose your miserable dictatorial life style on the others under the guise of coronavirus.