Totally biased debate already. What BS

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  1. Frowning Loser

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    Lol you're doing much better and your excuse for losing total control like a 10 year old is lol "because you're a grownup." Wacky Wacky.
     
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    Yeah, well, neither is rape.
     
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    not on your life, that guy is worse then either of the two running now
     
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    Did any of those people manage to convince e people they could run this country successfully like their businesses?

    Well, he's made millions off the backs of his employees he gives the shaft.

    Just what we need in office.

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    10 years ago. And that is not locker room banter. Stop (*)(*)(*)(*)ing excusing sexual assault as some past time you paint every man into with massive broad strokes.

    Disgusting offal.

    I'm glad it (*)(*)(*)(*)ing triggered the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of you to see this charlatan piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) get his just desserts though.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) trump.
     
  5. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you DONT wanna talk about facts, and syria... You want to talk about me. Got it. Why do liberals hate facts? I dunno.

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    Words are not crimes. Much to the chagrin of liberals.
     
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    No. I'm running from the consequences of reading your constant embarrassing yapping posts.

    Yes mam! Do you want to see the first draft first or wait til the final copy

    I never said it was. How bout you?
    This reminds me of one of those robo calls Push button 1 for yes and push button 2 for no.

    Yes! No! I don't know! I just can't take it anymore!


    It sure keeps you up at night.

    This post is silly and stupid. Not agreeing with raw naked genocide does not equate to a desire to send American Troops into a Quagmire like Syria.

    There are some ideas that other's smarter than me are entertaining. Arming the Kurds in Syria is one of them. They proved excellent at throwing ISIS out of their territory in IRAQ. They're tough fighters and well coordinated and we've worked with them for years. Maybe give them surface to air missiles so they can shoot down some of Russia's eight hundred million dollar planes. Keep Russia's economy as isolated as possible. This incursion in Syria is expensive and is draining Russia's economy. There are all ready grumblings from Russian citizenry. If Russia's economy goes into free fall this will put a great deal of pressure on Putin to find ways of meeting his budget.. He will be a much more friendly negotiator when given the opportunity to get out of the Sh-t mess he's in. It's not as simple as any one thing. And that's what trump supporters are looking for simple, stupid and brutal. I believe in keeping the pressure on Putin's disastrous economy and negotiating with him. But no alliances. Remember orange-**** himself has stopped saying how wonderful it would be to have an alliance with Russia.
    You can go back into your closet now.
     
  7. Your Best Friend

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    I don't know how you will stop Assad now that he has Russia backing him up. Magic beans, perhaps?

    So the Kurds are going to drag Russia into a Viet Nam style quagmire while their economy slowly implodes....really?
    Good luck with all that. Without a counter military force I wouldn't give the Kurds a snowball's chance in hell of stopping Assad.
    But I'm sure you know better.
     
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    Are you daft?
    I am talking about actions. Yes words are used to describe actions, but saying "i am going to grab your dick" is not a sexual assault. Actually grabbing your dick would be. You can then use words to file a complaint. It does not suddenly change the action I took into a description of that action. If you need further help understanding the difference between action, and description... Fact or fiction, I will continue to elaborate.
     
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    And the genocide nature of it all is OK with you. Which is exactly what's happening there.

    Lol never said anything like that. Good misrepresentation and a great yapping statement from you.

    Tell that to the Soviets who gave up on Afghanistan. With even less opposition. Or to America when we gave up on Vietnam. Yes there are political and economic consequences for a prolonged war. Especially if we help put the push down on a slowly crumbling Russian economy. So maybe if Russia nukes the place they can get out quickly.

    Certainly better than you by a long shot.
     
  11. Iriemon

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    No, not at all.

    Just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy and double standards of you arguing that "words are not crimes" when it relates to Trump, when you just stated Bill Clinton committed crimes based on nothing more than someone's words.
     
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    This is what you've constantly said anyway. I guess the only way some people can feel like they've won an argument is by making up positions and assigning them to the other
    guy. Of course such people are dishonest and sadly pathetic.

    And like a true debate king you mock
    my suggestion yet in your very next comment you validate precisely what I said. Well done, debate king (clap clap).

    And here you are, just as I said, validating what you mocked when I said it. How can anyone take you seriously? I sure don't know. Your self cancelling style aside, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the Kurds to drag down Russia and Syria (or on second thought...go ahead).



    Whatever you need to tell yourself.
     
  13. Your Best Friend

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    Can it be possible someone is actually confusing words (as opposed to actions) with words used to describe those actual actions?

    Wow! There is a world of difference between long held and credible claims of rape by a world renowned reprobate and sexual predator (that would be Bill Clinton) and the locker room tales of Donald Trump. Every time you think the left can't go any lower they find a way and do it with great zeal.
     
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    They could be.

    Trumps words are his own admission.

    The accusations against Bill Clinton are just unproven accusations that Clinton denied.

    I didn't even bring up the accusations of rape and abuse against Trump.
     
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    Trump was the barbarian at the debate. Glowering, prowling and stalking, lying relentlessly. He's finished.
     
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    If you think that is hypocricy, then you did not comprehend the explanation I just gave you. It is very simple. The words "Women let you do whatever you want... Grab their (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)" do not carry the same weight as words describing actual actions, ie. "Bill Clinton raped a woman a hotel, savagely biting her face". The only hypocricy, ironically, is your attempt to conflate the two.
     
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    I see the difference.

    Trumps own admissions are just words. They don't mean anything.

    But unproven words of an accuser against Bill Clinton are taken by you undisputed fact.

    Like I said, just another example of blatant double standards and hypocrisy.
     
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    That's uncontested. His comments were crude and regrettable but since when is locker room talk a crime or
    all that unusual?

    Yes. He denied rape...just like he denied ever
    having a dirty and inappropriate relationship with concubine/intern Monica Lewinsky. We know what his vehement denials are worth.

    Nor did I bring up all of the accusations against Bill Clinton.
     
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    Maybe it is "usual" in your world for a guy who is just married 8 months with a baby on the way to be bragging about his sexual conquests with married women and how he gets away with groping women. It is not for me.

    Maybe that's the way you act or the kind of people you hang with, I don't know.

    Does not make an accusation true.

    And we know how much Donald Trump lies.
     
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    conservatives are so used to hearing from themselves in a circle jerk of mass hypnosis that when they are forced to engage anyone else, they scream like little babies. this is what happens to a nation when the media feeds the public trash and ignorance. I just overheard two women at LAX talking about the dangerous situation our nation is in today. I agreed but there was more. Hillary would destroy America, Trump can save us, can make us all rich, make America Great Again. They were almost weeping in fear at Trump losing to Hillary. Whispering about schools, they mentioned "other" people that are ruining their kids education, wink, wink. They mentioned not standing for the flag as if the nation could not endure free speech. They mentioned moving if Hillary won....I said to myself, why wait, leave now. Quickly.
     
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    Nor for me. But I'm not a celebrity billionaire with women
    attracted to me like iron fillings to a magnet. You know, in a way he's been remarkably restrained and instead of just talking about how women let him take his liberties he could have turned out like Bill Clinton, the reprobate's Will Rogers.... a man who never met a vagina he didn't like.

    In any event the new bluenose prudes on the left can get the vapors all they want...no one was ever under the impression that Donald Trump was a Boy Scout.
    This is all about seeing how many supporters they can peel away from Trump (not many, I'll bet, due to Trump's nature).

    Locker room tales are ubiquitous. One has to be in a monastery not to be exposed (and even then...).



    Nor does it make Bill's denials true. And given his history with denials of sexual misbehavior there is much more reason to believe a charge of rape than not.



    Yes. If he lied anymore he'd be a Clinton.
     
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