Trade War begins: US and China exchange $34 billion in tariffs

I haven't told you how to live. I only told you to not tell others how to live.
You never had a right to tell anyone but you on how to live.
So you haven't lost it, you don't have it.

 

Of course you are telling me how to live. I live to tell others how to live!

So have me arrested.

 

Well ... Canada and the EU have come very close, because the CETA free trade agreement between Canada and the EU is already ... And China and the EU are also getting closer.
In particular, Orban in Hungary, which is so popular in the USA, is in the process of taking government loans from China and getting closer to them diplomatically. The same goes for the populists who are also the same as Trump, who are now governing Greece and Italy, and in the case of Hungary and Greece, it has already had an effect, as both have rejected "Chian's condemnation of human rights and actions in the South China Sea"!
Germany is holding on to the North Stram pipeline project with Russia and rightly gives the USA the middle finger ...

The signs are visible...

 

Well ... the EU is China's largest export customer, not the US. But I do not mean that Chinawill not suffer hard from the Trade War ... but they are actively (but silently) trying to explore alternatives for the US market.

 

If so then the euros will become china’s slave before America does

 

It depends ... because in contrast to Trump, who can only hit the ball with the baseballball in terms of diplomacy, we can still reasonably talk and negotiate with China.

 

Yes, the euros are great talkers

But china only respects power

And yours is diminishing

Someday china will do all the talking

 

If you mean ... but then it explains why Trump is generally so idiotic acting.
Our experience with China is that they follow closed agreements and contracts ... unlike the US.

 

Incorrect.
You don't get to negotiate with China at all.

The EU negotiates with China in your name. You have no experience with China.
They don't make deals with you at all.
That is a loop you aren't in.

China and EU have all the same trade disputes as China and the US does.
USA is more trustworthy than both.

EU has 70% steel tariffs on China,
You think they prefer the deals they get with the EU?
Ridiculous.

 

Of course EU negotiate and not the single member countries. But we the members tell the EU commision to negotiate what and give the frame and afer it, the EU council and commission, as well the EU parliament and also some single member states have to agree! Remember the CETA agreement, where even a regional parliament in Belgium was able to stop it for a time until they told yes too!

China is the biggest one in imports into the EU with about 20%! In contrast to the Trump BS chattering trolls, we take into account the whole trade including services in comparison and indeed have a deficit, which is steadily decreasing.

 

No you don't tell them anything.
They do as they please. Don't answer to you in any way whatsoever.
They answer to no one.

Which is why they screw the member states of the EU so consistently. Do so much damage to the European economy. Repeatedly.

I don't remember anything about CETA, sorry. Sounds like someone in Belgium tried to stop it but failed.
Usual EU, people who say "no" are told to say "yes". And then they do. Or rather, the people who said "no" realise they are not being listened to and stop speaking.
Who rules who? Pretty obvious.

EU doesn't take many services into account.
Services are basically not covered by EU agreement. Only goods.

 

I know that you hate the EU and you're glad for the Brexit etc. ... but you can not start telling the same bullshit as Farrage and Johnson.

The processes here are clearly regulated by the EU

And the EU takes the Services very well in account, because the part was doubled last year!

 

"Below is a list highlighting 15 of China’s top trading partners in terms of export sales. That is, these countries imported the most Chinese shipments by dollar value during 2017. Also shown is each import country’s percentage of total Chinese exports."

1. United States: US$431.7 billion (19% of total Chinese exports)
2. Hong Kong: $281 billion (12.4%)
3. Japan: $137.4 billion (6%)
4. South Korea: $102.8 billion (4.5%)
5. Vietnam: $72.1 billion (3.2%)
6. Germany: $71.2 billion (3.1%)
7. India: $67.9 billion (3%)
8. Netherlands: $67.3 billion (3%)
9. United Kingdom: $57 billion (2.5%)
10. Singapore: $45.7 billion (2%)
11. Taiwan: $43.9 billion (1.9%)
12. Russia: $43.1 billion (1.9%)
13. Malaysia: $42 billion (1.8%)
14. Australia: $41.6 billion (1.8%)
15. Thailand: $38.8 billion (1.7%)

Over two-thirds (67.9%) of Chinese exports in 2017 were delivered to the above 15 trade partners

http://www.worldstopexports.com/chinas-top-import-partners/

 

It may be a few years before china treats euros the way it treats its own people

But if they ever gain enough power you will rue the day

 

Guess that's why you supported Clinton not meddling into the affairs of Rwanda.

"Approximately 800,000 Tutsis and Hutu moderates were slaughtered in a carefully organized program of genocide over 100 days, making history as the quickest killing spree the world has ever seen."
"The media covered eyewitness accounts and direct stories from missionaries who were unable to save their Rwandan friends from inevitable death. Stories hit the front pages of the Washington Post and the New York Times, even with descriptions of six foot high piles of corpses. There were Defense Intelligence Agency reports that stated the killings were directly administrated by the government and intelligence memos that reported the ringleaders of the genocide.

The United States
Despite these reports, President Clinton specifically avoided calling the massacre genocide to avoid U.S. involvement. The Clinton administration held on to the idea that there were no U.S. interests in Rwanda, so it was not their place to intervene. They also believed that U.S. credibility would be diminished if they deemed Rwanda acts of genocide and then did not step it to intervene.

A senior U.S. official described the decision to not intervene in Rwanda as “a foregone conclusion.” Military intervention was not on the table for discussion; it was automatically concluded that the United States would not take part in stopping the Rwandan genocide."

http://endgenocide.org/learn/past-genocides/the-rwandan-genocide/

 

To name Hong Kong is ... sorry to say ... somehow rediculous and the reason is well-known

Anyway ... I spoke of the (complete!) EU and so count together the digits for Germany, Netherlands and also the UK (until now still EU!) and we have in sum 8.5% alone for these 3. Put the rest of 25 further EU members to it and then you have the 20%

 

Rwanda just had the misfortune to be too unimportant and not to have any terrific natural resources.

Let's do the same thing in Iran and one ethnic group makes Genocid another group and kills something between 800,000 and 1 million people ... but you've got a very short countdown to ticking until the first Marines and Army Soldiers enter Iranian soil!

 

That's fine but the US is China's single largest customer at 20% and if you don't think that gives us clout you are mistaken

 

Clinton let that genocide happen and it's on him.

 

You know ... that is now such a definition of what the EU is concerned, perhaps also a question of understanding where every member of the EU counts alone and where only the EU counts as a whole! Isn't it?

 

In the case of Clinton ... in other cases before and after, where the self-proclaimed world policeman and custodian of human rights would have needed for intervening and yet nothing happened, it was other US presidents.

 

Once again the US is 20% of China's export market, if you don't think that gives us clout you are mistaken.

 

Clinton sat by and watched genocide in rwanda.

 

Once again, the EU has 20% too ... if you don't think that gives the EU clout you are mistaken too.

 

Did I deny this with my post?