trickle up poverty

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    you facilitate government contracts


    government forces of market manipulation and privilege.

    Do you work for Goldman or RBS ?
     
  2. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Repeating lies won't help you

    I'm a SME consultant. Your hatred for entrepreneurship is in full glare. You boys really are poor at pretending to support individualism!
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    oh poor scucca, your hand on the government teet is noticed.
     
  4. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You're making no sense. Is that deliberate?
     
  5. Archer0915

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    So you advise people to come up with an idea, build it and get things going and then farm it out to China. Have I got correct? No wait you tell them to hire illegal immigrants and pay them under the table? No wait you get paid to blow smoke up peoples Arses.
     
  6. Reiver

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    No, you're being deliberately full of it.
     
  7. Archer0915

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    Well I am looking at investing in my community and have invented a new widget that I can produce for $25 each. Each widget will take one hour to produce initially. I plan on paying no more that $20 an hour total for labor which will work out to ten bucks an hour. My break even point is unknown as is my point of diminishing returns.

    I can hire one machinist initially as a setup man and use button pushers on the equipment at first. I do plan on expanding in short order to increase profitability by raising my unknown point of diminishing returns.

    What could you do for me?
     
  8. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First, if company A found it could get the job done with less expense by working with a Chinese factory... it would do so regardless of whether company B existed or not.

    Second, many companies already understand that American markets are slowing. It's why companies like GE are not just moving production overseas, they're also moving sales. Maybe they can't do without customers. But they may be able to do just fine without American customers.

    Finally, if this is upsetting to American workers, then American's need to find a way to become more productive, innovative or otherwise attractive. Paying an equally effective worker more, simply because he's American makes about as much sense as paying him more because he's male or white.
     
  9. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Ironic, while one said corporatist, scucca, for a profit, assists client companies in convincing government to manage markets ( translation : award privilege) thereby inhibiting competitive entrepreneurial opportunity.
     
  10. politicalcenter

    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    Yes and GE is doing so well...especially for their shareholders.

    In fact multinationals are doing very well... almost 400 pts lost today in the DOW.

    The people that make the products cannot afford to buy them.

    I would put money in food...people have to eat.

    You also forgot the unfair playing field the U.S. has to deal with...such as "dumping" products at below cost.
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  12. Archer0915

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    Firefox is free as are most browsers. Is there one you actually buy? Hell you can get most things free when it comes to computer software. Open Source.
     
  13. Reiver

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    Another fib! The problem you have is that you follow religiously an ideology that doesn't understand the firm
     
  14. squidward

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    a fib, how neat.
    As you charge a hefty fee to help your clients navigate a mountain of regulation that you lobby to create.
    Talk about an influence cost.
     
  15. Reiver

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    This continues to be gibberish. As remarked earlier, the problem is that you have no comprehension of SMEs. The firm is quite beyond the utopian (given any aspect of the visible hand cannot be understood)
     
  16. Not Amused

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    That explains it. You provide your clients the same clear, concise, answers you do on this forum - then reap influence costs.
     
  17. Reiver

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    Successful businessmen tend to be clued up (and able to understand basic economics). Strange!
     
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    We do. But, then we had teachers interested in our success, not in trying to prove how smart they thought they were.
     
  19. Reiver

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    Can't comment about you. I only know that you don't understand the basics of economic analysis. Fair enough though, there are always opportunity costs and we can't always measure it in terms of prussian poetry...
     
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    Wow, I pity the companies you "help". They have to be stupid enough to fall for your "expertise" (that probably rules out most), and if they follow your advice.....
     
  21. Reiver

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    I love your personal attacks as, without knowing it, you also show your contempt for the market.
     
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    Microsoft "dumped" it's browser on the market for free (ie below cost) to basically put Netscape out of business. Netscape, the predominant browser before the browser wars, developed their flagship browser as a commercial product. Their business model was to sell browsers like most software developers sell their programs.

    Browses are free today not because of any great charity on the part of software developers, but because Microsoft feared a unified experience on distributed computing that was being promoted by Netscape. That experience would have eroded the product differentiation and barrier to migration that was key to Microsoft's operating system sales. Browsers are free today, so Microsoft can charge more for operating systems.
     
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    Was a Great NYT Bestseller by Dr. Michael Savage.:mobile:
     
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    due to patent laws rewarding monopolies and oligopolies everyone is forced to pay for expensive operating systems
     
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    Not at all. Feel free to develop your own and use it at no cost. Other's have.
     

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