Trump Admin Inflated Iran Intel, U.S. Officials Say

I concur that are inability to rely on our intelligence agencies and bureaucratic elite for the truth is problematic. I do not think there is any reason for a military build-up - as if we do not already have enough bases and naval forces in and around the ME already. Build up to do what ? Prevent what ?

The people we vote for normally end up following the big money establishment interests that they are beholden to. I doubt that this will change - and nothing I have seen so far suggests anything other than the status quo.

 

Has nothing to do with trying to go for a "global Islamic state"

 

It's how the war to bring about the 12th imam would be started.

"The apocalyptic catch? The Mahdi is expected to appear when the world is wracked by utter chaos and war. Many Sunnis also believe that the Mahdi will come in such a judgment day scenario, but believe that he has not been born yet."

"The Twelver beliefs have raised concern in conjunction with Iran's steeped interest in furiously pressing forward with its nuclear program, combined with threats against Israel and the West. Critics of the Islamic Republic allege that Ahmadinejad and the Supreme Leader would even go so far as to hasten a nuclear showdown and cataclysmic strike—perhaps an attack on Israel and inevitable retaliation—to hasten the arrival of the 12th Imam. Ahmadinejad has even called for the reappearance of the 12th Imam from the podium of the United Nations General Assembly. During his speeches within Iran, Ahmadinejad has said that the main mission of the Islamic Revolution is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam."

https://www.thoughtco.com/who-is-the-12th-imam-3555177

 

Has nothing to do with Israel.

Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah Secretary General of the Iran-backed Lebanese resistance organization Hezbollah responded to bin Salman's remarks by accusing him of wanting to turn a political struggle in the region into a religious one. He added that the Mahdi doctrine is not specific to Shias and that, apart from the question of his actual birth, there's a consensus among all Muslims that Imam Mahdi is from the progeny of Prophet Muhammad and that he will rise from Mecca and that when he rises he will get rid of all corrupt rulers and fill the Earth with justice. Addressing bin Salman directly, Nasrallah remarked: "Neither you nor your children nor grandchildren can change this Divine destiny."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Mahdi

 

Once again.


"During his speeches within Iran, Ahmadinejad has said that the main mission of the Islamic Revolution is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam."

"The Mahdi is expected to appear when the world is wracked by utter chaos and war. "

Connect the dots here.

 

That in itself doesn't mean a thing. You failed to connect the dots between that, and iran attempting to go for some global Islamic state or even Israel. As I sourced, it has to do with Mecca and when he does... he does the judgement day theme. He... not Iran. And there is a consensus about it among Muslims.

 

The dots to connect have to do with letting Iran get the bomb and believing they will use it if they get it. You can't seem to grasp the whole 12th imam thing. Here, try again.

"During his speeches within Iran, Ahmadinejad has said that the main mission of the Islamic Revolution is to pave the way for the reappearance of the 12th Imam."

"The Mahdi is expected to appear when the world is wracked by utter chaos and war. "

 

Has nothing to do with Israel or world domination, nuclear wars etc.
This is what is ment with chaos and war:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

Shias believe that the arrival of the Mahdi will be signalled by the following portents:[4]

• The vast majority of people who profess to be Muslim will be so only in name despite their practice of Islamic rites, and it will be they who will make war with the Mahdi.
• Before his coming will come the red death and the white death, killing two thirds of the world's population. The red death signifies violence and the white death is plague.[citation needed] One third of the world's population will die from the red death and the other third from the white death.
• Several figures will appear: the Al-Harth, Al-Mansur, Shuaib bin Saleh and the Sufyani.
• There will be a great conflict in the land of Syria, until it is destroyed.
• Death and fear will afflict the people of Baghdad and Iraq. A fire will appear in the sky and a redness will cover them.

 

Exactly the scenario that nuking Israel would set in motion.

 

Nowhere does this say this would set this in motion.

 

So somebody has to tell you the obvious? What do you think would be set in motion by Iran nuking Israel?

 

Israel is the one I have heard threatening to nuke Iran

According to the Sun (cheap tabloid) they have said they will attack Israel if the US attacks them

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/90668...unches-strikes-tehran-aircraft-carrier-group/

Israel would find it very hard if she had to suffer just a titch of what she routinely inflicts on others.

 

Israel, Says Air Force Chief
Gen. Aziz Nassirzadeh as saying that the Air Force’s 'young generation are impatient and ready for a fight against the Zionist regime to wipe it off the Earth'"

 

where is your link?

 

Sorry my error.
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...destroy-israel-says-air-force-chief-1.6855532

 

ok. Here we have more of the situation

your link. Israel has been mass killing Iranians in Syria. It makes sense that that would have them motivated to hit back. Israel appears to have been wanting Iran to hit back. I think this goes back to about April of last year and came near destroying Israel's relationship with Russia. Obviously Iran has been cautious but it makes sense that if the US attacks Iran, they will have nothing left to loose and will put into practice what they have been rehearsing now for decades as the US and Israel threaten them and kill their people, including scientists and it makes absolute sense that they will make sure Israel hurts as much as they can possibly make this so.

There is an old African saying, always leave one corner for the lion to get out alive. Both the US and Israel have forgotten this.

 

These type of threats only emanate from Iran
Iranian supreme leader calls for Israel’s ‘annihilation’

http://www.timesofisrael.com/irania...fb_comment_id=857551267618425_857853060921579

 

Nowhere does it even hint that the 12th iman would appear.... and I sourced what they think when that 12th iman will appear.

 

Americans and Israeli's call for this to be done to Iran all the time.

The US even helped out Saddam Hussein with a full fledged WMD war against Iran. It's a war crime. People in the US should have gotten a death sentence over that.

 

Feel free to show me these hyperbolic exornations calling for the complete annihilation of Iran by the U.S. and Israel.

 

Setting the stage for the 12th iman by bringing about the conditions that foretell his coming would be the goal of nuking Israel.

 

And the usual dishonesty continues "This barbaric, wolflike & infanticidal regime of #Israel which spares no crime has no cure but to be annihilated."

 

The US and Israel call for the "regime" of Iran to be annihilated all the time

 

Dude,.. the US helped out Iraq using mustard gas and nerve agents against Iranian civilians till 1988. Thousands of survivors still need medical attention to this day. Wake up.

I proved that it isn't the case, by sourcing what will set that off.

 

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...ro-netanyahu-daily-cuts-circulation-1.5489643

Adelson. American but one of Trumps biggest doners and the provider of the widely read Israeli free paper promoting Netanyhu.

In this one Iran suggests Israel join the NPT then she will not hold the ME to ransom

https://www.jpost.com/Iranian-Threat/News/Iran-nuke-parley-Israel-should-join-NPT-173463

https://nypost.com/2016/09/16/israel-has-200-nukes-pointed-at-iran-according-to-powell-emails/

But this is it

http://israelnewsagency.com/iranisraelnuclearariel3890624.html

Now admittedly Iran did go to war against ISIS while Israel was supporting them - at least to the extent of healing their injuries, later providing weapons and some money. Israel is the county which is always attacking other countries in the region. The only reason she has not already nuked or in some other way seriously harmed Iran is because her military would not hear of it without American help. Israel wants American sons to die destroying Iran for her, Not surprising if Iran intends on giving Israel everything she has got.