Trump Administration is Advancing Class Warfare Against Us

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  1. Grumblenuts

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    "But during the Obama years we were constantly told how evil rich were on TV, over and over and over and over again. That rhetoric doesn't help anyone and has been a very frustrarting tactic by the Democratic party in the last decade."

    Wow, really? Somehow I must've missed it. Or do you mean Fox Noise was constantly portraying the supposed "liberal media" as though it were actually critical of the rich? Trump is quite rich, for example. Did the mainstream media paint him as legit and successful or barking mad and a loser? You decide.
     
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    No, actually worker co-ops are not new and not seem as a threat to capitalism. Massachusetts, Rhode Island, N. Carolina, Texas, California, and Colorado have all recently passed legislation to make formation of co-ops easier and provide them support. Contrary to your worries, co-ops are accepted just fine. So I don't understand your objection.
     
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    Exactly.


    It's all done according to law.


    It's all done according to law.
     
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    You missed the rich are evil rhetoric?

    You missed a lot of campaign speeches by Clinton and Sanders then, a LOT.
     
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    Say what?
     
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    Oh boy. You fling poop. Mind the fans.
     
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    LOL!!!! To the rabid right, citing and opposing antisocial, sociopathic behavior of the greedy rich corporatists is "rich are evil" rhetoric.
    So IOW we can't object to any of it because we might be accused of "rich are evil" rhetoric and that might hurt our feelings.
     
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    It's small c Communism, based on your article. I don't support Communism, as it leads to poverty, oppression, and suffering.

    If hippies want to live on a commune, that is their business. But, I have yet to see one that lead to anything but poverty.
     
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    Well then, you are sorely misled. Better check who you're listening to and believing, because to think co-ops are "communist" is so ridiculous as to be ludicrous.
     
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    I really dislike rotten bananas and I demand a prize for that.
     
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    Even your reply can be summed up as "rich are evil" Maybe you didn't miss those speeches after all.
     
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    Is that better or worse then being accused of polishing it :confusion:
     
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    Exactly as I said. You can't take any criticism of the rich. They're god to you.
     
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    Tbf, I did misinterpret the complaint somewhat so my apologies for responding only in relation to the mainstream media coverage. Kode's response, otoh, was appropriate.
     
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    I don't give anyone control of what I think. That is the most absurd notion I have ever heard. But, it certainly explains some of what people on the left think I guess.
     
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    But they are the devil to you. Why not judge people instead on the content of their character? Most rich people started out as average or poor, and got rich through hard work. Why not champion those particular wealthy people, instead of assuming they are all the Grinch?
     
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    Why do you suspect I respect the rich fellow who runs the local Food Bank? or the rich guy who is fighting for free college in town and soup kitchens for the homeless? or George Soros? or Mike Papantonio?

    You have no idea what drives a lefty. You think it just a blanket, blind hatred of rich people. We're far more class-conscious than that. But why don't you scold righties who speak poorly of the disadvantaged, the unemployed, the poor, the elderly?
     
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    For one, your talking is not an actual thing that matters. What is said about the poor, doesn't matter in any meaningful way. Your "support" of them, does not actually help them. The single greatest thing you can do for the poor, is to help them become rich. The policies of the left keep people in poverty by design. The most fitting way to express this notion, is the old proverb: Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for life. The left hands out fish, the right hands out fishing poles.
     
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    Blah, blah, blah... As though anyone still actually gave a crap about millionaires:
     
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    When 8 people have half the fish and still want more, I don't care if you call that evil or what. It's wrong.

    eta, or as many as half the total human population, whatever!
     
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    Ah, but "the right" is apparently innocent in that regard or somehow gets a pass. Now why would that be?
     
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    The policies of the right don't keep people poor; they aim to lift people out of poverty. The left aims to keep people in poverty, and merely make poverty less shitty. This is a fundamental difference in ideology.

    Did you know that among the bottom 20% of incomes, 95% are not in that category 10 years later? This notion of life long poverty is a bit of a myth; few actually suffer in that way.
     
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    TJ;

    That is something good to know. Where does that stat come from?

    Another stat:

    Most of the one-percenters change every year. I have been there a couple of times.
     
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    Wait "policies" vs "aims" = different "ideology"? Methinks thou art being too liberal with sloppy conflations. If GW Bush's "base" was "The haves and have mores" who "keep{s} people in poverty by design" again?
     
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