Trump calls to dismantle 'failed foreign policy establishment,’ blames Biden for Russia crisis

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    It's only OK if they bring up the orange dipshit that they adore.
     
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    Biden executed the cowardly flight in the middle of the night without notification to our allies and running like a rabbit leaving behind a massive amount of military equipment to terrorists. No matter how you spin it, old yellow stain Biden was in charge during the fiasco and responsible.

    Trump did sign an agreement to withdraw from Afghanistan. The plan was to do it in an orderly manner leaving our allies to pursue the war. Instead Biden sandbagged our allies and fled Bagram in the middle of the night without having the common decency to give them a little warning or advance notice.

    Here is Biden's, aka old yellow stain's attitude towards those he got killed.
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    Oh, I find it rather smart to leave in the middle of the night without anybody telling, instead of giving everybody a heads up when you would leave without able to protect your own tail. And the equipment left behind was for the Afghan army, who didn't want to fight with it. It was a fail enterprise the GOP started with their idiot idea's of causing a cultural revolution and some kind of yearning to democracy. Twenty years of total failure. Biden pulled the plug and it's a good decision.

    By leaving out the Afghan government, it was an open invitation to the Taliban to take over. Get over it.
    While Biden gave the Afghans 4 more months to prepare, but they couldn't be bothered. It's not his fault.


    The orange stain skipped a 9/11 remembrance day, skipped a WWI memorial, and make fun of Mccain for being captured and tortured.
    The orange stain, who dodged the draft and has absolutely no clue about the army at all.
    The orange stain is simply an alternative, but it's just far worse than Biden.
    So sorry.
     
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    Yes, but the Biden administration did manage to get our forces out of the Kabul airport -- a death trap.
    IOW, it could have been much worse.
     
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    Look who us talking. LOL. Maybe its time he shut the heck up stopped interfering in US foreign policy. When is he going to get over the butt-hurt about losing to someone he considers mentally challenged? Can't he see what that says about himself?
     
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    LOL! So, Trump should follow Hillary Clinton's example? ;-)
     
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    I simply brought a hard real news article about what Trump said, written by an investigative news reporter who doesn’t write op Ed pieces for his Just the NEWS site. I make no apologies whatsoever for going with the source as to what to call it and will do it again. If some want to think that their opinion on the matter Transcends the news source on the matter, that’s on them, not me.

    --Post edited to fix quoting error.
     
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    You sound like we had to leave Afghanistan under fire. lol With your claimed expertise and military knowledge perhaps you can tell us how many people we lost in Afghanistan in the year prior to Biden decision to flee in the middle of the night. Wasn't it something like zero in the prior year? And isn't it dishonorable to sandbag our allies. Cause many of those allies were no doubt killed after the coward Biden ran like a rabbit.

    Your comments about Trump are the usual strawman fallacies, whataboutisms, and deflections. When Trump becomes President again I will be happy to discuss Trump with you in the CURRENT EVENTS section of PF.

    BTW, Biden dodged the draft with fake claims of asthma. Why do you ignore his draft dodging and yet deride Trump as a draft dodger?
     
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    Says the party that host 3 Trump threads a day on the very same leftist whines over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
     
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    Not sure what happened to my reply here…
     
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    Well said. All of it. Thanks!
     
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    There were 13 US soldiers who died under Biden, and that all happened during the evacuating and was done by 1 suicide bomb from ISIS. And here you are basically whining all over the place why ISIS wasn't been given more of a heads up to do more than just 1 terrorist attack, because Biden chose to sneak out.

    While Biden had astma as a child, so he could not make the draft. That's not dodging a draft at all. Unlike that orange stain who faked something to not go
     
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    Your article says US Marine Corps General Frank McKenzie made the call, and the military agreed with the call and both should be held responsible. I remember them saying they did it because they had lost trust of the Afghans and feared they would attack the withdrawing US forces. So, obviously presidents don't make such calls, but for what its worth, Biden did say he owned it, which is something you never heard some other presidents say after something went wrong.
     
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    Firstly, Biden was a star football player and lifeguard. Therefore, he could have easily served in the Army. He is a draft dodger.

    Again, the Trump strawman, deflection, and whataboutisms. If you think that makes for a well reasoned argument you are wrong.

    Pretty cavalier to dismiss concerns about soldiers killed by Biden as whining.

    If you want to have a real debate, i.e., a well reasoned debate, then put your military expertise to work and explain why placing an evacuation airstrip at an airport inside a city with 4.5 million people and surrounded by an untold number of refugees is a good idea and why the larger far more secure Bagram should not have been used.
     
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    As you say Biden owned it. I don't believe McKenzie made the call. Just took the blame in the time honored tradition called "passing the buck." He stated in December 2021 we should keep 2500 troops in Afghanistan.
     
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    It wasn't up to Biden to decide to check his medical history and decide he can't go due to asthma. It's still an big issue for the army if you got that. So it's not dodging a thing, unlike that stain who just faked something out of thin air.

    The hell it is. The stain signed a deal with the terrorists about giving up, so it's just jaw dropping stupid to complain the outcome ends up what he agreed with. You simply got nothing to rebuke.

    It's so obvious ISIS would have prepared and killed way more US soldiers, if they would apply your kind of idea to just tell when the US would leave instead of suddenly not being there. Yet here you are whining all over the place Biden left suddenly in the night.
     
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    So how much "checking" do you suppose was done for the average guy prior to his being classified 1-A ? I marked asthma on the medical history form during a pre-induction physical, told the doctor I had asthma, and days latter got my 1-A classification in the mail. The only "physical" test taking place prior to being given a 1-A classification in my experience was about 60 young men being placed in a circle and for some reason subjected to a physical prostate exam. So my point is that Biden's experience suggests to me that strings were pulled with his State's draft board as was the case with Trump. So if this makes one a draft dodger the other is a draft dodger. BTW, I don't consider trying to avoid the Vietnam war dishonorable. Rather I dislike the Dems calling Trump a draft dodger while claiming Biden was physically unable to serve -- as you have done. If you are going to call Trump a draft dodger, be intellectually honest and call Biden a draft dodger as well.
     
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    Yes, Biden or perhaps his advisors blundered badly in Afghanistan by not leaving before the spring thaw and by abandoning Bagram before the evacuation was completed.

    Nevertheless, given the of all the errors evacuating our forces trapped in Kabul was mission impossible.
    They pulled it off. TG
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Why do righties scream bloody murder if a lefty mentions Trump?

    I 've seen them complain that trump is not the President and shouldn't be mentioned....and yet HERE is a righty bringing up Trump.

    You:
    "" I simply brought a hard real news article about what Trump said ""
     
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    So, I expect by your standards that any time a reporter writes an article quoting what Biden said on a given issue will be an op Ed article because the reporter wrote what Biden said. Is that what you want?
     
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    Yeah... they went back in time when Biden was a kid, and put in that they he has asthma so he could use that later in life. That's it, isn't it?
    While the orange stain faked an injury specifically for the draft. That's what draft dodging is about.
    You're just upset your hero is a coward and can't pin it on Biden.
     

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