Trump Could Win Pennsylvania, May Not Debate, Rendell Says Breaking News at Newsmax.

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  1. TomFitz

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    But Jimmy Carter had never been a showman.

    And Ronald Reagan may never have won an Oscar, but he was a good actor,

    He understood that he needed to win trust.

    Donald Trump doesn't trust anyone and he doesn't mean it when he asks people to trust him. He has no integrity, and a very thin skin.,

    A skin that Hillary Clinton will have little trouble getting under.
     
  2. AlphaOmega

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    Whatever way you spin it, after dems toss the race card, we now have proof that they are the actual racists. They call latinos taco bowls. Where is the lefts tattered race cards now. What raging hypocrites.
     
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    Nice try. We have the emails. Leftist call latinos taco bowls. It is now fact. The dnc is rife with racists. Hillary has been overheard by her staff and multiple witnesses have heard her and bill routinely call blacks nwords. Her retard comment made the 6oclock news at the time. I remember it clearly. Do you call latinos taco bowls? I dont.
     
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    Thanks for exposing yourself as uninformed.
    Also eating a taco bowl isnt racist. Referring to latinos as taco bowls is. You have yet to explain why this isnt racist. Is it racist? Yes or no. Careful how you answer, your integrity will be judged by your answer..
    Everyone reading including you, damn well know its racist.
     
  5. Zorro

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    He could win PA, and he can win without PA. He will debate Hillary, but she is trying to hide the debate behind popular NFL games, because American Doesn't really like Hillary, and the more they see of her, the less they like her.

    Gallup finds a remarkable fall from grace, she is always most popular when out of sight. When people see Hillary, as during the current campaign, they tend not to like her.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/07/america-cant-stand-hillary.php

    http://www.270towin.com/maps/7GAQy
     
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    You have no possible high ground here after that 2 month old, -unsourced- Korea thread you posted today as a "current event." <vomit> Yeah... you did that. So spare us any empty condemnation of "rabid right wing trash blogs."

    It doesn't matter where it came from, this thread title is a plain falsehood with no factual underpinning whatsoever, which despite other far more reasonable threads being deleted today, somehow remains. Even if considered an "opinion," it should have been 1. retitled, and 2. merged into the other thread on the exact same topic on the front page of this subforum.

    EDIT: I see it has been retitled. Well that's a start. It should have been instantly deleted.
     
  7. bclark

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    Personally, I see no benefit to debating a lawyer who essentially debates and 'bends the truth' for a living. Why would any real person want to do that?
     
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    I've been catching a lot of HRC sound-bites from todays Philidelphia appearance. Noticed Hillary wasn't emphasizing her determination to put coal mines out of business. I guess because her progressive vision of US energy policy and regulation didn't go over very well when she unveiled it in W. Va ... I wonder if HRC has a bail out plan for retired miners whose retirement security is joined to coal industry profits. More unintended consequences?
     
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    Nice try hearsay like that is just right wingers that can't argue so they make up (*)(*)(*)(*). It's ok we don't expect ANY honesty from you. Some right wingers have prove they are about as American as Putin is.
     
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    That is conventional wisdom talking. This year, this election is so unique that there are no historical references to go by and conventional wisdom doesn't apply. At least yet. We have two candidates so utterly disliked by the electorate as a whole, it is really hard to get a feeling as to where this thing is headed.

    If someone told me back in December if that Trump would win the Republican nominations, I had a two word response: "Your're nuts." Even back in May when it was apparent it would be Trump vs. Clinton in November, if asked who would win, looking at the numbers back then, that was an easy answer, Clinton. The only question was would she win in a landslide or only by 5 points or so.

    So here we stand today, Trump and Clinton basically tied at 40% each.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

    Then I look at their favorable ratings, again basically tied. Sure Trump is 36% positive, 58% negative vs. Clinton 38% positive, 57% negative. Close enough when considering the MOE. Nothing makes sense anymore. But making sense went out the window when the two major parties nominated these two really, really disliked candidates.

    Now I agree one would think skipping the debates would hurt Trump. But the way this year has unfolded, who the heck knows. The same was said about Trump not releasing his taxes. So what happened? Trump moved from a few behind to a tied. On the Tax returns, I said on this site when Trump announced he wasn't going to release them that most Americans could care less. The only ones who do are the opposing candidate and opposing party so they can get some gotcha information. Seems I was right on that one.

    Now the debates are different or are they? Conventional wisdom say they are, but there has been nothing conventional about this election. Here's a hedge bet on Trump declining to participate in the debates. If Hillary can climb up into the 40's, say around 45% favorable/positive rating by the debates, Trump not participating will definitely hurt him and Clinton wins in November. If she remains in the 30's or drops some, not taking part in the debates won't hurt him.
     
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    A Democrat saying Trump won't debate is just how much many of the new - REDUNDANT - threads started by some of the forum's Democrats shows how they got nothing.

    What is left off in your message is that 56% of voters think Hillary Clinton should be indicted. This is UNPRECEDENTED IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
     
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    True on the indictment. But how does that play into the grand scheme of things? It is like everything thing else or each event that happens, the political pundits always call it a game changer. 99% of the time it isn't, if they give it a couple of weeks, things revert to normal or as they were before the event or whatever happened.

    Americans have really, really short memories, that FBI report and the non-indictment is ancient history. People have moved on. That is with the exception of the avid Trump supporters.
     
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    She'll also win in a landslide if Trump does attend the debates.
     
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    Wow! What an excellent point. I've wondered why PA was in play and I think you nailed it. It's not just a Steel Mill State, it's a major COAL state.
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    Trump hates globalization and has pledged to revive the steel industry. &#8220;The era of economic surrender will finally be over!&#8221;

    &#8220;Trump is reaching the people,&#8221; says the 78-year-old former union organizer. &#8220;He&#8217;s giving them some hope. If you don&#8217;t have the Democratic Party coming here and offering something, what are we going to do?&#8221;
    ~ Monessen&#8217;s Democratic mayor, Lou Mavrakis

    Hillary promised that if she became president &#8220;we&#8217;re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.&#8221; And a LOT of those coal miners she wants to put out of business, hail from the Great State of Pennsylvania.
     
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    I have never heard of the the term "taco bowl". Assuming my own ignorance, I googled the pharse, expecting to see it in an urban dictionary as a racist slur.

    Instead, I found numerous references to Donald Trump sitting in front of one proclaiming "I love Hispanics".

    And,,,,,,, a lot of references exclusively in far right wing blogs, labelling the term as racist because it showed up in the leaked DNC e-mails.

    It seems to me that the "taco bowl vote" got used in response to Trump's cynical ploy more than the fact that this term actually existed as a racist slur (before Trump apparantly made it one).

    I've never seen a taco bowl, either.

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    Yup, Trump has already begun the whining, in advance of manufacturing an excuse to withdraw from the debates.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-debate-schedule-226464
     
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    The process is rigged toward those who are actually informed over those who, for example, rely on the Sunday shows for their foreign policy ideas. I've been saying for months that Tiny Hands would dodge debates in the general. Going toe-to-toe with Hillary would be catastrophic for him and he knows it.
     
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    Congrats on discovering for yourself just how biased the msm is. So to be clear....you are admitting as a political forum member that you are completetely unaware of the dnc email content? Thats virtually impossible. I think its more along the lines of you saw the racism and now have no defense except to pretend you never heard of it. This has been all over the news on multiple channels and on radio airwwaves for days.
     
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    You seeing a benefit is irrelevant. I think you, and a lot of trumpbots acknowledge that debating isn't trump's thing. If he tries the insult-fest he had with the other republican candidates on hillary, it won't go over as well. I get that you guys are scared of the mockery he will make of himself, that doesn't excuse him of attending the debates.
     
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    Yeah. Because having 90% lawyers in our government is working out soooo well. Poverty is up, crime is up, and wages are down. But legal fees are through the roof. What a shock when all we care about is that someone is a good snake oil salesman, and not what they accomplished in their life.

    You post about 'trumpbots' but my guess is their is nothing Hillary could say that could cause you at this point to vote for someone else. However, you got me curious. What is the shining pillar of awesome that Hillary has constructed that causes you to forever sing her accolades?
     
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    I think that's the calculation they're making. It's not that he might do badly in a debate. It's that he WILL do catastrophically in a debate. In the primaries, he didn't have to hold the floor for more than a minute at a time, just long enough to reel off a few insults before the moderators moved on to another of the 9 candidates on stage. That format didn't lend itself to follow-ups or probing the depths of his ignorance (although we all remember the moment when Baby Hands heard the term "nuclear triad" for the first time.) In a 90-minute debate with Hillary, Baby Hands would have to speak for approximately 40 minutes. He would have to demonstrate familiarity with facts, always troublesome for him. He would have to study. He would have to keep his story straight. For not one but three debates.

    All of this means he can never ever debate Hillary (or anyone else one-one-one). There's not enough there there to keep that Hindenberg afloat.
     
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    Try sticking to what my response was about. No one cares about your tangents. The bottom line is trump is terrified of being emasculated by a smart woman on national TV. It's his version of a nightmare. He's never treated women as anything more than property, and having to actually meet one as an equal likely has him crapping in his depends.
     
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    :roflol:

    Rendell just said those things so the Democrats will avoid complacency in November.

    Trump has ZERO chance in PA. NONE.

    If Trump makes a strong push in PA, he will be throwing money down the drain.

    No chance he carries PA.

    PA is Hillary's true firewall.
     

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