Trump disavows chants made at his rally in North Carolina

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  1. TCassa89

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    President Donald Trump has disavowed the "send her back" chants directed at Democratic congresswoman Ilhan Omar by his supporters at a campaign rally.

    Ms Omar is a US citizen who emigrated from Somalia with her family after fleeing the country's civil war.

    The chants, which came after Mr Trump criticised Ms Omar and three other congresswomen, were widely condemned, including by some Republicans.

    "I was not happy with it. I disagree with it," Mr Trump said of the chant.

    He did not elaborate on with what he disagreed.

    "It was quite a chant and I felt a little bit badly about it," Mr Trump told reporters on Thursday. "I started speaking very quickly but it started up rather fast, as you probably noticed."

    The controversial chants took place at Mr Trump's campaign rally in North Carolina.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49035505

    Disavowing the chant is the kind of leadership we need from president Trump. If there is anything history teaches us, it is that certain people will follow their leaders into dark and evil places. I don't believe in "condemnolgy", it should not be called on ordinary people to make a public statement any and every time an individual associated to their ideology/party does or says something condemnable, however it is very important for our political leaders to use the power of the microphone to lead by example. This is especially true for the executive branch of the United States government
     
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    Trump is a Total JOKE.

    Why did it take so long for him to "disavow" it?

    Why didn't he do it immediately (at the rally)?

    Trump = No Honor or Character.

    Trump = SPINELESS WIMP
    .:smh:
     
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    You think this isn't going to happen at every ****ing rally from now on??

    hahahah.
     
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    hmmm....So Donald Trump creates an offensive and derogatory movement and chant which his minions happily take up at his clan gathering and says nothing while its happening (in fact fanning the flames), but when even Congressional Republicans say its a bit too far he says he didn't do it....sounds about right for him.

    What a proud moment for America.
     
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    The character bar is so low for Trump that people are now applauding him for just barely criticizing the racist xenophobic chant of his supporters. Couldn't help himself but to lie a little bit while on his way to his very tepid condemnation of his biggoted supporters (he did not speak very quickly to interrupt the chant, but instead basked in it). Good to see that even Trump acknowledges that saying "send her back" is not acceptable behavior. Pretty interested to hear what all of the Trump supporters here who have spent hundred of hours claiming that Trump's "go home" tweets were not in the least bit racist, xenophobic or unacceptable now have to say. Pretty funny that we are applauding the "leadership" of Trump for disavowing the chants when he is DIRECTLY responsible for them.
     
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    You should watch the video where Omar defends ISIS and mocks Americans for being afraid of them. Could you spare a little condemnation for her?

    Trump MAY have gone too far but damn, are there no other politicians courageous enough to call out the treacherous behavior Omar engaged in? Are they all going to look the other way? Don't send her back but she sure as hell can leave if she hates our country this much, we aren't forcing her to live here.

     
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    Care to point out where on the video she defends ISIS & mocks Americans for being afraid of them? In fact, care to point out where she even mentions ISIS?

    She makes fun of a university lecturer based on her interpretation of his body language - nothing about ISIS or fear.

    She makes a point about the different treatment of white people & muslims who commit certain crimes. There is an element of truth to the point, but in typical fashion she leaves a lot of important context & thus comes to a predictably false conclusion.

    She then states she is not a member of al Shabab - I'm assuming from the mocking tone that she has been accused of that, though I neither know nor care.

    So, epic fail for the right wing noise machine. Maybe you should read more widely. Apparently a constant diet of sewage like 'the Blaze' is eroding your critical faculties.

    I am perfectly happy to condemn Ilhan Omar for her referencing of anti-semitic tropes, her support of the Venezuelan regime & her unevolved undergraduate 'anti-imperialist' posturing. The US Congress would be improved if she left it (as it would if most members left, including virtually every member of the GOP) and I would be happy for the Dems to primary her at the next election. However, nothing she has done or will be able to do anytime soon comes close to a US President appealing to the most vicious & base instincts of the worst of America. If you are fine with a US President standing there silent while a crowd screams 'send her back' then maybe you are as confused about what America stands for as she is.

    The saddest thing about this isn't Trump whipping up vicious, nativist mobs, it is the army of supporters who refuse to condemn him for it or even agree with him. Conservatives talk a big game on 'personal responsibility' but seem less able to take some themselves.
     
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    You mean EXACTLY the same as Barack Obama did during his eight years in office? Start an anti-American -- or anti-American principles event or movement -- and then have to tell his followers to tone it down? But usually only AFTER something horrible occurred as a result. Funny how the Left never, EVER criticized him for that sort of habit.
     
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    Some minimal data or link to verify or at least hint at the accuracy of your commentary would be appreciated.....even though your distraction attempt is obvious.
     
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    WHY is he "disavowing" a chant that HE believes in?

    HE tweeted they should be "SENT BACK"....and now he lies and says he didn't, that he NOW disagrees with?
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause: Well spoke and true, great post...
     
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    Awww C'mon James, I was just making a statement. What exactly do ya wanna debate?
     
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    Bigfella in a post shortly after mine made all the points that I would have made.
    I think Ilhan is an incredibe light weight, and very immature. Ilhan has been called out for making statements that used antisemitic tropes and she has apologized for their insentitivty. Trump saying "go home" to 4 US citizens of foreign birth is far closer to a racist trope of old (I certainlt remember that term being used repeatedly when I was a kid) than Ilhan's statement that 'it's all about the benjamins" when discussing the power of lobbies lobbying on behalf of foreign nations (and in the case she was talking about Israel). Because the discussion was actually about money in politics. She has apologized repeatedly (for in all fairness repeatedly making idiotic statements).
    Ilhan is one of 435 members of congress. Trump is the president of the united states.
    I watched the video, it doesn't portray the things you claim. If that is what makes her unamerican, I have hundreds upon hundreds of videos of Trump's egregious behaviour that should make your head explode.

    Wish you would actually have the balls to admit that Trump has a serious character flaw rather than trying to justify his egregious behaviour. There is nothing courageous about telling a black american citizen to "go home". You and I may disagree with Ilhan's politics, but she was elected to speak for her constituency in congress, and ALL members of congress are in washington to change and shape the country. Part of that involves disagreeing with present policy. That is how government changes to reflect it's people's wishes. To call that unamerican or treacherous is disengenuous. Or since you countered the original point with whataboutism, let's bring this back to Trump. How many things has he said that were critical of the US and it's government?
    There is no courage in what Trump did, just blind exploitation of Americans' worst behaviour. He has only mildly scolded the chanting crowds because he is afraid that this might be that famous step too far.
     
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    He should have called out the chants immediately, but that is not what a demagogue does.
     
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    Throwing his own supporters under the bus for repeating HIS rhetoric. Sad!
     
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    Wait a minute ...

    1) This Muslim refugee is taken into the U.S. under mysterious “chain migration” circumstances (shenanigans).

    2) She apparently commits tax fraud by being married to her brother while claiming on her taxes to be married to someone else.

    3) She’s elected to Congress and in her first six months all she does is decry the U.S. as evil.

    4) She displays anti-Semitism that would make Hitler blush.

    And no one can suggest she move back to where she came from?
     
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    As you're fond of saying, who cares?

    Ilhan Omar is an anti-Semitic apologist for the genocidal Islamist psycopaths in ISIS who couldn't even bring herself to condemn terrorism earlier this week. As most of us remember and many Lefties are eager to forget, she whitewashed the mass murder of 3000 Americans by her fellow Islamists as "somebody did something".

    She is trash unworthy of the refuge and blessings that this country and its people have bestowed upon her, which is why Democratic operatives such as David Axelrod recognize the danger in running to that anti-American piece of sh*t's defense and Democratic leaders such as Blinky Pelosi have been desperately trying to marginalize her. The moral and intellectual pygmies in the DP who ignore that do so at their own party's peril.

    When Trump disavowed the chants matters only to Democrats and their supporters, but now that he has disavowed them that leaves Democrats holding a bag of sh*t that Pelosi & Co. can't get rid of.

    Have fun with that, suckers...
     
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    She's a paragon of "progressive" virtue, and she's going to stick to Democrats like napalm...

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    Exactly. If he had tried to disarm the chant by saying something like "Calm down. Sure she's a leftist socialist whacko but she's an American citizen"
    I would have applauded trump (maybe for the first time). But of course he did nothing similar to that.
     
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