Trump is a bad person. Why would anybody vote for him?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Apr 8, 2024.

  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Are you set there and said it .... Then deny that you say it. While trying to claim that I said it.... And then you talk about the title as if your own post and what you yourself said is not relevant to your op.

    You're right, I shouldn't waste my time and I should find someone more serious to post with except for someone who says something and then denies that they said it and then claims that I said it and then when they are easily proven wrong..... Oh never mind it's like playing chess with a damn pigeon.

    You yourself set right there and claimed that he has 16 rape victims. That is demonstrably false and anyone who is actually a serious poster and has the ability to actually read can see what a joke that claim is.
     
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  2. ECA

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    Do you believe parents are responsible for every choice their grown adult offspring makes? Have your kids not made mistakes? Are YOU responsible for all the mistakes your kids have made?
     
  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    WHAT is YOUR interpretation? WHY do you think Trump implemented the family separation policy? How does it work? How does it achieve its goal?

    I don't care if you don't support it. You DO support an evil person. And, at this point, your only answer to explain why has been to deny reality.
     
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  4. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ok. So your answer is that you don't care. That's all I was asking.

    Wow! That's even worse! A politician's job (as a politician) is to get themselves elected. They can do that by doing good things for the people, or bad things (like torture). But you just admitted that the ONLY thing you care is that they get themselves elected. And you made it clear in your first sentence that you don't care HOW.

    It's terrible that there are human beings who think that way. But they do exist. They have existed throughout human history. And they are responsible for some of the worst dictatorships in history.
     
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    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    Link please.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Pop quiz.

    -Which of those pictures includes somebody who:

    A- Has ordered the torture of children, has been found in a court of law to have committed sexual assault, is an indicted felon out on bail,...

    B- Is shirtless, hasn't shaved and is smoking a joint...

    Bonus point question:
    -Which (A or B) would you say is worse?
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Do you think parents have no impact on what type of adults their children end up being? Do you not believe in nurture, only nature? Do you think parents have no impact on their children's behavior?
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Since none of what you wrote besides shirtless and smoking has any base in reality, it makes the option easy. B.
     
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    I can't help but notice that you dodged answering my questions. I will be MORE than happy to answer any and all of your questions after you answer all of mine. You would agree that is a fair proposition considering I asked my questions first, right?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Got it! So you think that not wearing a shirt is worse than a court finding you liable for sexually assaulting a woman and having tortured children.

    See? In a very roundabout way, but we ARE getting MAGAs to answer the question. And there have been two answers: they start by deny reality, and then they finally admit that they don't care. We have only seen this in groups like those which Jim Jones or David Koresh or Charles Manson or... similar... managed to put together.
     
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    Do you believe parents are responsible for every choice their grown adult offspring makes? Depends
    Have your kids not made mistakes? Sure
    Are YOU responsible for all the mistakes your kids have made? Depends
     
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    Lol what an interesting collection of sentences, thanks for sharing.
     
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    There is absolutely no way that you can claim that he has 16 rape victims and then try to sit here and say that that's not what you were talking about and that I quoted you out of context.

    There is only one context with which you can claim 16 rape victims.... And in your case the context is a complete and total fabrication on your part. But that's what I have come to expect.
     
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    Do you think parents have no impact on what type of adults their children end up being? Depends
    Do you not believe in nurture, only nature? Depends
    Do you think parents have no impact on their children's behavior? Depends

    You get back what you give out.
     
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    Oh! Make no mistake about it... there is NO doubt in my mind that he raped the women who have accused him, if that's what you mean. What I'm saying is that it's NOT the evidence I am asking MAGAs to consider. Because, of course, they can (and will) dismiss it as a..."conspiracy theory" or something like that.

    The evidence I am using is undeniable even by MAGAs. Even for the most imaginative conspiracy theorist. And that's the fact that he tortured children. Of course they can SAY (and they do) that he didn't do it. But it was done in public, he signed it, and he even ADMITTED it... The rest of the OP is just to clarify to folks who might start reading the thread and wonder why I didn't mention his OTHER acts. Not directed at MAGAs, of course. We already know who they will side with whenever "the Orange Deity" is involved, regardless of any facts that might point to his being guilty.

    Anyway... carry on. From YOU, I would never expect anything other than the most absolute denial of reality. So I'm not even making much of an effort..
     
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    While I understand you were responding to someone talking about parenting, in the big picture, nobody cares that Hunter is or was a crack head. Getting caught up in this minutia obfuscates the true scandal.

    The far bigger concern than parenting is why foreign governments and associated agents are paying this crackhead millions of dollars over several years when he seemingly has no applicable skills to warrant anywhere near that type of money. This is not a situation where a rich kid gets a cushy job at Price Waterhouse Cooper because of his dad's connections, this is literally for millions of dollars.

    The clear and obvious concern is that what Hunter was offering was access to his father. One can argue he was only selling the appearance of access, but since this was over a period of years, it is hard to rationalize that people with that kind of money are going to stupidly paying that money and not getting any results.
     
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  17. FatBack

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    You are absolutely hilarious. Your projection is thicker than a block of tungsten. And every bit as dense.

    But just keep screaming with your hair on fire and hope someone will believe half of the things that you fabricate
     
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    don't care, it's not an issue that figures into my decision of what PARTY to support for the White house. And the democrats are full of evil people Golem and many of their supporters are felons or felon enablers.
     
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    You already said that. Problem is that you can't make your mind up if you want to just cling to that for dear life, or you think you can find some way to deny it happened. You keep going back and forth between one and the other. For your own mental sake, maybe it's better if you just stick with "I don't care" on everything Trump does, and stop trying to make up excuses. They don't work!
     
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    According to Trump, he's better than everyone at everything!



    I find it amazing that millions actually believe this moron.
     
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    you, of all people, should know why I support Trump winning. Its judges =judges that will slap down the creeping crud of gun confiscation that you and other leftists support
     
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    So I will address your comment. Everything you said is a lie. When you hold a Bible it doesn't matter is it is up or down as long as you hold it with reverence. I hav never seen the opposition so much as hold a Bible. Torturing children is a complete farce. What is true is that a lot of children are brought here for the sex trade. Yu make all these sexual innuendos about Trump and not one has been proven true. What we do know is that the FBI has in it's possession a diary of Ashli Biden where she states that he father Joe Biden used to grope her while in the shower so she began the practice of only showering late at night after he had gone to bed. We know this is most likely credible as evidenced by his public groping and hair sniffing. This is all related to your comments because the left has a bad habit of accusing others while doing the exact same thing!
     
  23. FatBack

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    Oh my God you actually think that that's a joint? Lol.... Did you not notice it is a glass stem which is how people commonly smoke rock cocaine? Lol

    Lololol

    And your comment about ... Has ordered the torture of children .... Is every bit as ridiculous as your fabrication about 16 rape victims.
     
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    Which is something you haven't thought through. He might have done that last time. But consider this. Last time he needed the votes of the right to get reelected in order to stay out of jail. So he adopted some right wing policies to entice the right to vote for him.

    That's useless now. Because he can't be elected under this constitution a third time. He's not going to stay out of prison if he's not President in 2029. His best bet, in HIS mind, is to become a dictator. To do that, he will need to surround himself with unwavering loyalists. Fire anybody he can so they can replace them. Including Generals. So according to YOUR mantra (and maybe his), who would be his only threat? People with guns!

    Votes by the right are of no use to him anymore. But he might believe, like you do, that he needs to reduce the number of people with guns. Heck! That might even put him in good standing with his ORIGINAL political party.
     
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    He is their leader, so they support him no matter how corrupt he is. Moral character doesn't matter anymore, so lying, whore chasing, molesting women, adultery, banking fraud, profanity, character assassinations, theft, peeping on teen girls changing rooms, inciting violence, etc are tolerated, if not admired.

    Think about the ancient Romans, and how they danced to the tune of Galigula's music, who was a morally corrupt leader, but they had to obey or face the consequences. Likewise, disloyalty to Trump will result in name-calling, labeling, and probably the end of political career. I never thought I'd see this in US.
     
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