Trump is found liable for fraud in New York civil case

That’s a lot of money. I wonder why there are no criminal charges being levied against him?

 

Because you can't put a corporation in prison.

This isn't about jailing Trump, it's about making sure he can't do this again. The best way to do that is to revoke his license to do business in NY.

 

Speaking of complete garbage, the defense is set to begin tomorrow.

Hope Engoran is bringing his bullshit detector with him, because he's going to need it.

He should also be on the Tylenol all day every day going forward, because constant eye rolling causes headaches...

 

We're heading for a suspension of Trump Org's business license in New York + a fine of at least $200 million.

Trump clings to the slim hope of getting the judge off his back to get a mistrial.

 

IF that argument had any validity, Biden, Hillary, and about a thousand others would be in prison or court right now. On the public side, squatters would be quickly evicted, immigrants wouldn't be walking across the border like it wasn't there, and prosecutors wouldn't be declining prosecutions of criminals. "Accountability" does not exist is our political system. Legislators are selling influence, violating their oath of office, violating their fiduciary duty to the people- Every day, without consequence. If laws are not applied equally, they are being applied selectively- and that means as weapons of the people in the positions to make that selection, who invariably have personal reasons, usually tied to political reasons. I realize that is all going to be over your head- but that's your problem.

When you go in search of a crime that can used to charge someone with, you are choosing a target, then looking for a law you might use as a weapon. That is a vendetta, and a morally despicable act that no person of honor would touch. Anyone willing to do that participate in that, or support that does not have sound moral values- or is so blind with bias they don't care, which is the same thing used as convenient.

Our laws are so complex, nobody can comply with them all, including you and I. You can't, because there are too many to read, they are too difficult to understand, and so ambiguous that even if you were able to do those things, they could still be interpreted in many ways.

Our system can only work with laws like that if every person involved in enforcing them is a person of strong personal values, and focused on the spirit and purpose of the law. Obviously, you are not too sure what that means or how they matter. Which explains your point of view.

There are 27,000 pages of federal code, which by reference add over 10,000 administrative regulations- and those things are regularly being changed, added to, etc.
Some years back we had a man put in jail for not mowing his lawn. While that sounds insane. there were local codes dictating property maintenance, and if you ignored multiple notices that was possible. The police were on a desperate search for a serial killer, and someone tipped them that this guy matched the description. So- they hunted up a law to jail him on while they checked it out.
They are using your bias about Trump (which is also something they generated for you), finding ways to stretch the laws that you will allow and support- because of your political view. I don't think a person of sound moral value would allow that.

If Trump wasn't a threat to what these people do- they wouldn't bother. If this was not a vendetta, not a coordinated, focused effort, there would not be multiple charges over a wide area in the midst of a presidential campaign where Trump, despite all the trash and frame-ups- leads the field.

Connect the dots. Small kids can do it.

 

Florida,

Trump had the documents
Trump was not authorized to have the documents
Trump refused to turn the documents over.

Three dots, connect them. 4 year olds can do it.

 

There's a 4th dot, which is just as bad

Trump lied to the DOJ saying he had turned everything over

 

Technically the lying falls under "refused to turn them over"

Now the hiding of the documents, the attempts to get people to erase video on servers is a completely different charge of "obstruction"

 

OK, Trump is being framed.

If the Democrats had that kind of power why didn't they use it against Trump in 2016? Why hasn't any previous Republican President ever been put in prison? Why haven't any been put on trial? Why haven't any ever been indicted? The only president in the 20th century to be impeached was a Democrat. If the Democrats can railroad Trump why haven't they railroaded any previous Republican President?

 

This civil suit isn’t against a corporation. If Trump was doing all this, then he himself could be charged. In fact this suit says he personally was doing this. So he COULD have been charged.

It should be. I keep hearing he committed a crime but no criminal charges were filed and were actually decided against. He’s being sued in civil court where the judge decided the trial before it began.

 

Prove it.

 

It is against the corporation, as well as Trump and other individuals

DONALD J. TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP, JR., ERIC TRUMP, IVANKA TRUMP, ALLEN WEISSELBERG, JEFFREY MCCONNEY, THE DONALD J. TRUMP REVOCABLE TRUST, THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION, INC., TRUMP ORGANIZATION LLC, DJT HOLDINGS LLC, DJT HOLDINGS MANAGING MEMBER, TRUMP ENDEAVOR 12 LLC, 401 NORTH WABASH VENTURE LLC, TRUMP OLD POST OFFICE LLC, 40 WALL STREET LLC, and SEVEN SPRINGS LLC,

https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/tto_complaint.pdf

 

The criminal case is still open. There likely will be criminal charges to follow if Bragg thinks he can establish mens rhea for the things James has uncovered.

 

While Bragg is certainly free to do that, he knows he's going to have to get in back of a serious line...

 

Very true, and a serious line with federal cases in the lead.

 

If Bragg is serious, he should try and insert himself into the line just behind the DC case, since the Florida judge seems to be trying to run out the clock to the general election.

 

Judge Maryanne Barry, Trump's older sister died today.
Guess he didn't get the news so he could begin to reflect on her passing.

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Nobody can believe this Political Witch Hunt Trial is still going on. No Victims, No Witnesses (their witness recanted his FAKE story, and said he Lied!), No Defaults, No Jury, No Nothing, only happy Banks etc. There was FRAUD, however, but by the Judge and the A.G., in saying that Mar-a-Lago was worth only $18,000,000, when they knew it was worth many times that amount. They just wanted to make me look bad - All a big SCAM by the New York A.G. in order to get elected, and then to run for Governor, unsuccessfully. The Trump Hating Judge MUST WITHDRAW his “bull….” early ruling (before the trial even started. HE KNEW NONE OF THE FACTS!). He is devastated by the TRUTH, but just can’t let it go. He is OBSESSED! Any other Judge but this one would have dismissed this ridiculous lawsuit years ago. He asked me to settle for a MUCH LOWER AMOUNT, at a settlement conference, but I said NO, I DID NOTHING WRONG! Businesses will NEVER come back to New York if this HOAX is not dismissed & forgotten!



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Deranged Jack Smith, Andrew Weissmann, Lisa Monaco, the “team of losers and misfits” from CREW, and all the rest of the Radical Left Zealots and Thugs who have been working illegally for years to “take me down,” will end up, because of their suffering from a horrible disease, TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME (TDS!), in a Mental Institution by the time my next term as President is successfully completed. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

 

Ole' Gangreene and Hoebert are gonna be jealous of their Trash sister.

Is that a Habbahabba cleavage next to Junior? lol





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Trump Jr. testifies his father is an 'artist' with real estate
The "con-" is a given.


“He’s an artist with real estate!
He sees the things other people don’t!”
Donald Trump Jr. testified Monday, according to The Associated Press (AP).



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Sounds like you’re saying they are suing Trump himself, and the corporation, but won’t pursue criminal charges against the individual Trump because you can’t jail a corporation? So they can sue the individual but can’t criminally prosecute an individual? That makes zero sense.

They CAN criminally prosecute the individual named Trump. They looked at prosecuting the individual Trump. So they can’t jail a corporation doesn’t come into play here. Also, there’s a lengthy section in criminal law on corporate fraud.

 

He needs to learn -- There. Is. No. "Art". To. Balance. Sheets. Balance sheets are based on historical values, not speculative values. If you add brand value to your balance sheet, you are committing fraud.

 

The. Criminal. Case. Is. Still. Active.

 

Nobody said anything about "won't". Executive Law 63(12) gives the State Attorney General the power to sue in a case like this. Actual criminal charges might have to come out of the Manhattan DA office. Who knows, after this is over Bragg (or whoever the Manhattan DA is at the time) may decide to pursue a criminal charge.

 

He likely will if he thinks he can establish mens rhea. In fact, this is probably something he was waiting for before considering further. James has her hands on a lot more information than he does, and he has the luxury of watching how it plays out and getting to review a lot of depositions and testimony before making a decision.

 

News

link:
'Trump Says Jack Smith & Letitia James Will be in Mental Institutions During Next Term'


'He gets worse every day'